Best APC comparison

Well for interiors I use P&S Xpress Interior Cleaner but Pan The Organizer & Scott from Dallas Paint Correction both recommend Super Clean for Interiors

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I used to not neutralize after using APC's and degreasers but after using on black interiors and seeing how it dries on chrome door handles and sill plates I realized that high alkaline cleaners are definitely leaving behind some sort of residue. I don't know the long term impact but I know (at least on the cars I'm working on) and my own personal vehicles I'd rather be safe not sorry.

D101 is definitely better on Fabric and Carpet than Mckee's Hi-Intensity APC+ IME. Must be those optical brighteners
 
yes, that's correct

I have gone back and forth with this but also use a damp microfiber cloth.

So it's simply:

1. Spray D101 on mf towel or surface ( depending on if I need to be cautious w/ overspray )
2. Clean surface.
3. Run a separate wet/damp mf towel over the surface.
4. Run a 3rd mf towel over surface to dry it.

To me it's almost too many steps... but it seems to works best.

Would appreciate, as always, other opinions/successes/etc.
 
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4. Which of these doesn't need "neutralizing"/rinsing after using on interior?

All APC will be higher pH. All will need to be neutralized/rinse afterwards if used on carpet or upholstery. You would have better results using a dedicated carpet cleaning product and rinse
 
I used to not neutralize after using APC's and degreasers but after using on black interiors and seeing how it dries on chrome door handles and sill plates I realized that high alkaline cleaners are definitely leaving behind some sort of residue. I don't know the long term impact but I know (at least on the cars I'm working on) and my own personal vehicles I'd rather be safe not sorry.

D101 is definitely better on Fabric and Carpet than Mckee's Hi-Intensity APC+ IME. Must be those optical brighteners

I respect what you’re saying... As a matter of fact I myself had a similar eye opening experience after polishing a windshield 1 day. Even after having used my very best microfiber towels for polish removal there were traces of polish, dust, and polishing oils that were later visible proving that an IPA or similar wipedown would’ve made the difference between that and a perfect final result.

Not only did it make me realize the issue at hand, but it also made me think of what must be taking place whenever we polish paint and the stuff the naked eye might not always catch. The “polishing oils”.

Eye opening yes, but not quite enough to make me change my ways on paint unless I’m ever set to go extreme OCD on a detail. But I understand what you’re saying.

As far as interiors, I do follow up with a secondary wipedown with something like Quik Interior Detailer whenever I use Magic Eraser on vinyl door panels or anywhere I’ve cleaned with it.
 
Well for interiors I use P&S Xpress Interior Cleaner but Pan The Organizer & Scott from Dallas Paint Correction both recommend Super Clean for Interiors

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Yes, those two are the channel where I heard great stuff about Super Clean. Seems to be a well liked product.
 
D101 is definitely better on Fabric and Carpet than Mckee's Hi-Intensity APC+ IME. Must be those optical brighteners

Hi mwoywod,

For fabric and carpet stains, how is OPC compared to D101?
 
All APC will be higher pH. All will need to be neutralized/rinse afterwards if used on carpet or upholstery. You would have better results using a dedicated carpet cleaning product and rinse

Any recommendations please? Something easy to use for newbie and broad uses (so I don't have too many products).
 
Hi mwoywod,

For fabric and carpet stains, how is OPC compared to D101?

OPC isn't recommended for carpet or fabric. I've used it to spot remove grease/oil stains but not for actually cleaning seats or carpets.
 
Your best option would be either OPC and a dedicated Interior Cleaner (I personally like Griot's Interior Cleaner and Ultima Interior Shampoo)

OR

Just an APC like D101 or Mckee's APC+

If you are trying to just get one product I'd go with just an APC
 
Your best option would be either OPC and a dedicated Interior Cleaner (I personally like Griot's Interior Cleaner and Ultima Interior Shampoo)

OR

Just an APC like D101 or Mckee's APC+

If you are trying to just get one product I'd go with just an APC

Gotcha :xyxthumbs:

Btw, is OPC considered an APC? Or does it belong to a different category?

Sorry for the noob question, I'm still learning (thanks for your kind patience).
 
Gotcha :xyxthumbs:

Btw, is OPC considered an APC? Or does it belong to a different category?

Sorry for the noob question, I'm still learning (thanks for your kind patience).

That’s a good question. I believe it was created as an All purpose cleaner but when used undiluted or even 3:1 dilution it has unbelievable degreasing abilities unlike other APC’s which tend to suds up more but won’t necessarily do a better job degreasing. OPC can break down bug guts, remove baked on brake dust and clean tires as good as any dedicated bug, wheel, or tire cleaner. It’s truly an all purpose cleaner except when it comes to fabric and carpet. Like suggested in the other thread you started, you could get OPC and pick up a bottle of Folex from Home Depot and call it good.
 
That’s a good question. I believe it was created as an All purpose cleaner but when used undiluted or even 3:1 dilution it has unbelievable degreasing abilities unlike other APC’s which tend to suds up more but won’t necessarily do a better job degreasing. OPC can break down bug guts, remove baked on brake dust and clean tires as good as any dedicated bug, wheel, or tire cleaner. It’s truly an all purpose cleaner except when it comes to fabric and carpet. Like suggested in the other thread you started, you could get OPC and pick up a bottle of Folex from Home Depot and call it good.

Thank you, you seem to have good knowledge of these things, I appreciate that!

Last question :)
This is mostly out of curiosity: do we know why OPC isn't good for carpets/fabrics?
I mean does it not contain a chemical that's needed for carpets/fabrics, or does it have too much power that it would harm the carpet/fabric material?
 
Thank you, you seem to have good knowledge of these things, I appreciate that!

Last question :)
This is mostly out of curiosity: do we know why OPC isn't good for carpets/fabrics?
I mean does it not contain a chemical that's needed for carpets/fabrics, or does it have too much power that it would harm the carpet/fabric material?

OPC does work on carpets/fabric (I'll even use it to pre-treat spots of oil/grease/coffee stains) but the cleaner definitely needs to be rinsed. A dedicated carpet cleaner or even many all purpose cleaners like D101 which is targeted for interiors can be used on carpets and fabric without rinsing where OPC could potentially lead to resoiling of carpet and fabric if not rinsed.
 
That’s a good question. I believe it was created as an All purpose cleaner but when used undiluted or even 3:1 dilution it has unbelievable degreasing abilities unlike other APC’s which tend to suds up more but won’t necessarily do a better job degreasing. OPC can break down bug guts, remove baked on brake dust and clean tires as good as any dedicated bug, wheel, or tire cleaner. It’s truly an all purpose cleaner except when it comes to fabric and carpet. Like suggested in the other thread you started, you could get OPC and pick up a bottle of Folex from Home Depot and call it good.

What dilution do you use to clean bugs off paint? From the strength of this stuff how you make it sound, my fear is marring.
 
Like suggested in the other thread you started, you could get OPC and pick up a bottle of Folex from Home Depot and call it good.

How about D101 and Folex. I'm figuring pretreating the stain with D101 then attacking it with Folex if the D101 doesn't do the trick. I am working on a 2004 Sienna with coffee and coke stains and have used Chemical Guys Nonsense diluted 20:1, then 10:1, then full strength (using the least abrasive paint correction mentality here). The carpet does look much better but still not where I want to be. Was thinking about using the D101 and getting some of Meguires D106 but I'll try the Folex since it is right around the corner from me and no need to wait.
 
How about D101 and Folex. I'm figuring pretreating the stain with D101 then attacking it with Folex if the D101 doesn't do the trick. I am working on a 2004 Sienna with coffee and coke stains and have used Chemical Guys Nonsense diluted 20:1, then 10:1, then full strength (using the least abrasive paint correction mentality here). The carpet does look much better but still not where I want to be. Was thinking about using the D101 and getting some of Meguires D106 but I'll try the Folex since it is right around the corner from me and no need to wait.

It’s actually the other way around.. Pre treat with Folex, and use the D101 as the more broad approach cleaner. You’ll quickly get a feel for how they’re both geared to work that way.

-Further explanation: The Folex can sort of, actually it can do what the D101 can do if you felt like using it to clean the entire carpet of a vehicle, however I would strongly advise against using the Folex in the same method as you would use D101, meaning you don’t spray and agitate/scrub Folex, you instead want to spray, then immediately lightly dab the product into the fabric with your fingers,[I recommend wearing HD nitrile gloves] then immediately blot/dab/mop/wipe clean with an absorbent towel. [IMO cotton terry towels work best]

Basically you want to follow the directions with the Folex, and that means no scrubbing, especially with a brush. It sounds crazy, but you’ll have subpar results if you scrub.


-D101 on the other hand can’t really do, or do effectively or in a reasonable manner what the Folex can and sometimes it’s not even close… For example there’s times where you’d have to use D101 at full strength for it to even begin to remove stains and even then there’s no way D101 would be able to do it without scrubbing the way Folex does. Plus it’s a hazard to use D101 undiluted especially on interiors, let alone trying to breathe through the fumes it would create. Not advisable.
 
It’s actually the other way around.. Pre treat with Folex, and use the D101 as the more broad approach cleaner. You’ll quickly get a feel for how they’re both geared to work that way.

-Further explanation: The Folex can sort of, actually it can do what the D101 can do if you felt like using it to clean the entire carpet of a vehicle, however I would strongly advise against using the Folex in the same method as you would use D101, meaning you don’t spray and agitate/scrub Folex, you instead want to spray, then immediately lightly dab the product into the fabric with your fingers,[I recommend wearing HD nitrile gloves] then immediately blot/dab/mop/wipe clean with an absorbent towel. [IMO cotton terry towels work best]

Basically you want to follow the directions with the Folex, and that means no scrubbing, especially with a brush. It sounds crazy, but you’ll have subpar results if you scrub.


-D101 on the other hand can’t really do, or do effectively or in a reasonable manner what the Folex can and sometimes it’s not even close… For example there’s times where you’d have to use D101 at full strength for it to even begin to remove stains and even then there’s no way D101 would be able to do it without scrubbing the way Folex does. Plus it’s a hazard to use D101 undiluted especially on interiors, let alone trying to breathe through the fumes it would create. Not advisable.

Thank you for the information. This is what I’m working with. I created the problem with the spreading on the ends by using the CG Nonsense and a brush and wet vac.
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Thank you for the information. This is what I’m working with. I created the problem with the spreading on the ends by using the CG Nonsense and a brush and wet vac.
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You need to mop up with clean towels, using a wet vac just isn’t going to get the job done. You could try as long as possible with the wet vac and you’d still easily pull away lots of grime using a simple cotton terry towel afterwards. Best bet is spare the mess you create in the vac and go straight to the towels.

Even rinsing with water would be better than using the wet vac since you have the individual pieces of carpet out of the vehicle. Just make sure you leave them out to fully dry if you do.
 
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