example of why a paint cleaner is important

[mixxer]

i cant post pics of the the car but ,the car did was washed ,clayed and polished with menzerna 106 orange pad. Then i used white pad with KLASSE AIO and this was the result,it goes to show you how important a paint cleaner is in a good detail.
http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/4879/1000403ik4.jpg (http://imageshack.us)

[Bunky]

I do not understand. What should I be noticing? I guess it is something on the pad. Sorry for being dumb.

[ScottB]

I think a paint cleanser in replacement of a polish on a well taken care of finish still helps to remove minor environmental issues. Some we may see, others we cannot. I use Pinnacle or P21S when needed as easily to use and great results.

[mixxer]

bunky the piont is after a wash,clay and abrassive polish all that dirt remains on your paint.

[budman3]

I'm guessing that used to be a white pad? I honestly wounldn't have expected those results after polishing, quite surprising. Last week I detailed a Trailblazer, did ONR, clay, and FK425 and PwS, UDM and here is the pad after:

http://i124.photobucket.com/albums/p39/kmford8/trailblazer/HPIM1667.jpg

That is without polishing beforehand, I would have assumed that the polish would also clean the paint ... guess not :). Thanks!

[D]

What kind of car was it what color? Did you do an ISO wipe down after polish?

[Jimmie]

No way I would have guessed that either. Things always look perfect after a polish. Thanks for showing us that.

[Bunky]

bunky the piont is after a wash,clay and abrassive polish all that dirt remains on your paint.

OK. so if he was using a white pad, it should have been just filled with dried AOI and the dark is the dirt/oxidation that was not removed from the surface?

[mixxer]

no iso wipe down after i wiped down with dp waterless wash after the polish be cause it has cleaners and lubricty. -------- well yes bunky but the klasse wouldnt cake a pad up it should just look like a white pad.

[Bunky]

I just do not understand how an aggressive polish that removes some very small amount of top coat in order to achieve the polishing results can have dirt remaining if it is attached the surface removed. Is it disturbed (must be if above is true) and spread by the polishing action but essentially redistributed on the surface?

[mixxer]

It might be bunky what ever it is or where ever it came from by removing it would increase the bonding of last step products and most likely add clearity to the paint there for making it an important step often skipped.

[D]

What kind of car and what color?

[mixxer]

clear coated light silver gto,know one has seen the car yet so thats all i can really say about the car its kind of top secret project.

[Deep Gloss Auto Salon]

I have also experienced this after doing polish job...

I can wash, clay, polish use DG501 and the pad on my PC will be very dirty..

[dontsleeponit]

clear coated light silver gto,know one has seen the car yet so thats all i can really say about the car its kind of top secret project.

hmmm, ok now youve got my attention :righton:

I havent really experienced any of this with my car yet, but I think its because I clayed really good and the car has always been very clean and well kept, actually garage kept. Ive tried P21S paintwork cleansing lotion and XMT360, and both left a noticeable difference in the appearance of the paint, but neither showed that much grime on the pads/applicators.