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Floridian Mustang
02-06-2018, 10:28 AM
been using Mothers California Gold Cleaner was for a long time now. very happy with results. my question is being on that its a "Cleaner wax" if I add a second coat is it stripping the fist coat off? am I just wasting wax and money?

DBAILEY
02-06-2018, 11:46 AM
You can try to apply the second layer gently, but yes you are at least partially removing the first layer. Which is doing what it was designed to do.

Goonie75
02-06-2018, 11:50 AM
I concur with DBAILEY. It will remove some for that seems to be what it was 'designed' to do. Why not just polish if you are after a 'deeper' clean? Then top with a wax or sealant.

Floridian Mustang
02-06-2018, 12:05 PM
You can try to apply the second layer gently, but yes you are at least partially removing the first layer. Which is doing what it was designed to do.

so maybe keep it up Mothers Quick Detailer between waxes?

Floridian Mustang
02-06-2018, 12:08 PM
I concur with DBAILEY. It will remove some for that seems to be what it was 'designed' to do. Why not just polish if you are after a 'deeper' clean? Then top with a wax or sealant.

deep shine is a goal. but my main goal is protection. protection from weather, bugs, rain, but mainly the hot Florida sun can be brutal. was adding second coat for extra protection. not sure if i use Mothers quick detail if that helps, hurts, or does noting. well at least that was my thought pattern.

MattPersman
02-06-2018, 12:39 PM
Doubt the quick detailer will add anything protection wise to the paint. Better off with a spray wax between quarterly coats of wax

Something like optimum car wax in a gallon makes a decent budget wax


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Floridian Mustang
02-06-2018, 12:40 PM
Doubt the quick detailer will add anything protection wise to the paint. Better off with a spray wax between quarterly coats of wax

Something like optimum car wax in a gallon makes a decent budget wax


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cool. Thank you.

forrest@mothers
02-06-2018, 09:04 PM
We do make a version of our Carnauba Cleaner Wax WITHOUT the cleaners. It's our part # 05750 in liquid (https://www.autogeek.net/phas3calgolp.html), 05550 in paste (https://www.autogeek.net/mo5550.html). AutoGeek stocks both of them.

If I were wanting to add an additional coat, that'd be the way to do it.

Floridian Mustang
02-07-2018, 12:57 PM
We do make a version of our Carnauba Cleaner Wax WITHOUT the cleaners. It's our part # 05750 in liquid (https://www.autogeek.net/phas3calgolp.html), 05550 in paste (https://www.autogeek.net/mo5550.html). AutoGeek stocks both of them.

If I were wanting to add an additional coat, that'd be the way to do it.

thank you very much

Floridian Mustang
02-07-2018, 01:24 PM
We do make a version of our Carnauba Cleaner Wax WITHOUT the cleaners. It's our part # 05750 in liquid (https://www.autogeek.net/phas3calgolp.html), 05550 in paste (https://www.autogeek.net/mo5550.html). AutoGeek stocks both of them.

If I were wanting to add an additional coat, that'd be the way to do it.

given your user name I would like to pick your brain one more time pease.

I did try to use the reg Mothers paste wax. seemed kinda difficult to take off. could be Florida heat. After registering on this board it seems like synthetic is the way to go. Being that ive been loyal to Mothers product since my first car (used to use the "Three phase system) .I bought the synthetic liquid wax. being from down here I am going for maximum protection from weather rain SUN ect. Car look great. was very easy to work with. two weeks latter I was rinsing it down to give it a wash and the car really didnt bead much. now I am old school and feel beading means protection. Whats your thoughts on this? Is the the synthetic wax (liquid) better? Does beading mean protection ect? Any insight would be greatly appreciated.

Goonie75
02-07-2018, 01:35 PM
I'm not from Mother's but do have just a second before I leave for a training at my 'real job'. Company going to G Suite--anyway... Bob, or FUNX650, whose opinion I tend to trust on here, along with Mike and many others... mentioned something in a thread I can't recall right now about beading vs sheeting kind of thing... 'beading' not necessarily being 'better' than sheeting in terms of indicating protection on the paint... and it may even cause more water spotting, etc... so if the wax you are using is 'sheeting' yet still protecting, I'd say that's a good thing... maybe Bob or one of the other folks will chime in... good luck

peace

Floridian Mustang
02-07-2018, 04:51 PM
I'm not from Mother's but do have just a second before I leave for a training at my 'real job'. Company going to G Suite--anyway... Bob, or FUNX650, whose opinion I tend to trust on here, along with Mike and many others... mentioned something in a thread I can't recall right now about beading vs sheeting kind of thing... 'beading' not necessarily being 'better' than sheeting in terms of indicating protection on the paint... and it may even cause more water spotting, etc... so if the wax you are using is 'sheeting' yet still protecting, I'd say that's a good thing... maybe Bob or one of the other folks will chime in... good luck

peace

Thank you for the input. Not sure if Mothers Synthetic is sapposed to bead or sheet. or did it just wear off quick. i rinsed it and very little very loose beads.

Floridian Mustang
02-07-2018, 07:06 PM
not to mention I just looked up reviews on different sites Seems longevity is what most people who complain about are saying. at best last two weeks ?

forrest@mothers
02-07-2018, 10:31 PM
If you had difficulty in removal, my first thought would be too heavy of an application - it should be a haze on the paint, not turn white. I assume you weren't doing it out in the sun or on a hot paint surface, correct?

Our synthetic product is a much "softer" wax than the carnauba product - there's less slickness so I'd expect to see more sheeting than beading going on with it. I love the synthetic (particularly the paste) for ease of removal.

I'm getting on a plane (was at AutoGeek filming video spots the last 2 days) and heading home in the morning. You may want to call and speak with Jim D (714-891-3364) in tech support after 8:30 West coast time tomorrow - he can fill you in on more details while I'm traveling.

Floridian Mustang
02-09-2018, 02:37 PM
so as a rule Synthetic waxes produce a sheeting more than a beading effect ?