So its getting into the colder weather now, I need to throw on some protection... suggestions?

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Its been one thing after another lately and I just have not had time to get some protection on the new truck. It has Sonax BSD on it now since I bought it ( about 4 weeks ago or so ) so at least it has SOMETHING. We all know how well BSD works etc. But basically what Im wondering is:

1. What should I use? I have many of the heavy hitters in terms of sealants like Collinite, M37 HD paint sealant, M37 10min sealants, WDGPS, Collinite 476a ets
2. Should I use the new and famous Megs ceramic spray wax? Super easy it seems plus good longevity
3. Something else?

Come spring its going to get clayed, buffed lightly or chemical polished and then some sort of protection then too. Im just after doing something now since well time is a tickin'....
 
If you just want something over the winter. And not especially want to try something new out. I would apply a 2 coats of Collinite 476s and done. If are able to down the road if you would notice a degrade in the behavior from the 476s. I would just top it with Sonax BSD when and if that's happens.

The problem I see with the hybrid and ceramics and ceramic coatings products. Is that you need to be doing a very thorough prep work which includes a light polishing step. To get the most out of them in the durability. Something that if you have access to a PW is to use a spray on rinse off product like Gyeon Wet Coat and Carpro Hydro2 lite and Sonax Spray and Seal. I get easy 2 months longevity from them with a high performance from them. With just a thorough wash as a prep and is not so finicky in lower temperatures either or in high humidity which is usually if you live where you have snow. Can be a very usefull product to have at hand if you want to top up the protection.

/ Tony
 
Agreed with above suggestions.

Give it a good wash, and a couple of coats of 476.

Do NOT over-apply it, and DO NOT let it dry/haze over 2-3 minutes.

Thank me later for that advice. Lol ;)
 
PaulMys said:
Agreed with above suggestions.

Give it a good wash, and a couple of coats of 476.

Do NOT over-apply it, and DO NOT let it dry/haze over 2-3 minutes.

Thank me later for that advice. Lol ;)
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Sooo lol do what now? Lol. Apply it and remove it under 2-3 mins? Thought it had to haze, as it wouldn't come off easily?

I guess that's why this stuff is a bear to remove once hazed.

I may melt some down and put it in new deodorant tubes
 
MrOneEyedBoh said:
Sooo lol do what now? Lol. Apply it and remove it under 2-3 mins? Thought it had to haze, as it wouldn't come off easily?

I guess that's why this stuff is a bear to remove once hazed.

I may melt some down and put it in new deodorant tubes
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Do two small test spots. Let one sit for 2 minutes, then remove. Let the other one dry to a haze, and try to remove that one.

You be the judge........ ;)
 
Skip the wax and do a consumer based ceramic coating instead... this isn't 1973. I can't believe people still use 476 lol.
 
Kaban said:
Skip the wax and do a consumer based ceramic coating instead... this isn't 1973. I can't believe people still use 476 lol.
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No, but is IS 2019.

And thanks for dissing all of us who still use the product and are quite happy with it.
 
The problem with ceramic coatings etc is IMO, if the surface isnt 100% good to go, the coating is going to fail. Ive tried it many times and I myself cant get them to last more than a year. It could be me, and may be, but waxes/sealants allow me to KNOW there is something on the paint. If not, I can just retop again. Plus I have sooo many things, I almost always have to throw something on the paint.
 
PaulMys said:
Do two small test spots. Let one sit for 2 minutes, then remove. Let the other one dry to a haze, and try to remove that one.

You be the judge........ ;)
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lol. How fast should I apply the second coat? Just go around once, and go around again? Maybe an hour between?
 
If you want to go with 476, have at it. But if you are on the fence as far as trying something different, I would go with WGDGPS. Very easy to apply, wait 45 minutes to an hour to haze, effortless removal.
 
If you want to stick with a wax or coating type product, do yourself a favor and just apply Carpro Hydr02 every month or so. It literally takes less than 5 minutes to do a car and offers insane beading if that's what you're after. I used to be a hardcore 485/476 user back in the day and swore by that stuff, but these days, doing detailing as a profession, I'll take any product that will cut time and wear/tear on your body. I do not see any benefit to using a traditional paste wax these days over something like Hydr02. Sure, will Collinite offer a more slick feeling to the paint and potentially last longer? Maybe. But look how long it takes to apply and how much elbow grease is involved, not worth it IMO. Plus, a touchless sealant like Hydr02 gets on ALL surfaces (grille, glass, trim, etc.) and is a god-send on wheels/calipers/barrels.

I don't remember 476 even lasting that long. It's good for a wax but if your car sees the elements and is parked outside in the winter, forget it. Chicago winters, I was maybe getting a month's worth of noticeable beading with that product and it was all but gone completely after a few washes. Road salt just destroys any kind of wax out here. Ceramic coatings are the real deal if you want a product that will last through the winter and long after. Otherwise, something like Hydr02 fits the bill as far as short-term protection that super easy to apply and takes no time at all.
 
Kaban said:
If you want to stick with a wax or coating type product, do yourself a favor and just apply Carpro Hydr02 every month or so. It literally takes less than 5 minutes to do a car and offers insane beading if that's what you're after. I used to be a hardcore 485/476 user back in the day and swore by that stuff, but these days, doing detailing as a profession, I'll take any product that will cut time and wear/tear on your body. I do not see any benefit to using a traditional paste wax these days over something like Hydr02. Sure, will Collinite offer a more slick feeling to the paint and potentially last longer? Maybe. But look how long it takes to apply and how much elbow grease is involved, not worth it IMO. Plus, a touchless sealant like Hydr02 gets on ALL surfaces (grille, glass, trim, etc.) and is a god-send on wheels/calipers/barrels.

I don't remember 476 even lasting that long. It's good for a wax but if your car sees the elements and is parked outside in the winter, forget it. Chicago winters, I was maybe getting a month's worth of noticeable beading with that product and it was all but gone completely after a few washes. Road salt just destroys any kind of wax out here. Ceramic coatings are the real deal if you want a product that will last through the winter and long after. Otherwise, something like Hydr02 fits the bill as far as short-term protection that super easy to apply and takes no time at all.
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Let's just make a new rule here on AGO that if you use anything BUT a coating, don't bother posting here.

All of the products used for decades now suck, and you're wasting your time having fun in your driveway on a nice Sunday afternoon waxing/sealing your car.

Sorry, Collinite. And sorry to Pinnacle, Wolfgang, Meg's or any other wax or sealant. You have been passed by, and anyone that uses you need not reply here lest be given a lesson by those who "know better than you" what you choose to use on your own car.
 
PaulMys said:
Let's just make a new rule here on AGO that if you use anything BUT a coating, don't bother posting here.

All of the products used for decades now suck, and you're wasting your time having fun in your driveway on a nice Sunday afternoon waxing/sealing your car.

Sorry, Collinite. And sorry to Pinnacle, Wolfgang, Meg's or any other wax or sealant. You have been passed by, and anyone that uses you need not reply here lest be given a lesson by those who "know better than you" what you choose to use on your own car.
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You're really open minded to new products aren't you. You can use what you want bud, no need to get upset over other people's opinions and suggestions.
 
PaulMys said:
you're wasting your time having fun in your driveway on a nice Sunday afternoon waxing/sealing your car.
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To answer this point, nobody is "having fun in their driveway" doing ANYTHING during the winter months where I live (Chicago). With Hydr02, I recommended a product that is very quick and easy to use even in the winter months at a coin wash or a similar place when it's above freezing point. If you're in NY, you should know that.
 
Kaban said:
You're really open minded to new products aren't you. You can use what you want bud, no need to get upset over other people's opinions and suggestions.
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Actually, I am very open minded. I've never said one bad thing about coating products, and completely understand the use and enthusiasm of such.

I will use what I want, thank you.

And if you think I was upset over a post on the internet, you might not know me so well. :)
 
PaulMys said:
Actually, I am very open minded. I've never said one bad thing about coating products, and completely understand the use and enthusiasm of such.

I will use what I want, thank you.

And if you think I was upset over a post on the internet, you might not know me so well. :)
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ok bud. what ever you say.
 
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