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nrengle
09-22-2008, 11:28 PM
Ok guys, finally put that sample to use that Meghan sent me (Thanks again)!

Working on a 2002 Grand Prix, black, very neglected paint. It's never been polished, and only seen "soft cloth" automatics much to my dismay. My future wife (5 months to go), owns it, sits outside 98% of the time. Lots of travel on back roads and gravel.

Car is full of swirls, and the front bumper and hood honestly need a repaint with all the micro cracks, rock chips (which a few are starting to rust), water and bug etching.

Anyways onto the process. I washed and clayed then topped with Mothers FX spray wax (not using the good stuff LOL) it a few weeks ago in prep for this then have been sidelined with no power for 8 days and work.

Anyways today...

ONR wash
Simple Green cut 3:1 for wheels and wells.
Simple Green cut 10:1 for bug guts on bumper, hood, and mirrors.
KAIO by hand with LC white hand applicator
Menzerna Glaze by rotary with LC CCS Blue pad
Menzerna Glaze by hand with LC CCS red hand applicator
Wolfgang DGPS by hand with MF applicator
Megs Hot Shine for tires and wells

First impressions of the glaze is it works decently and a little goes a long way. After I primed my pad with a little QD (ONR QD strength), and applied a small cross on it, I only needed about 3 pea sized drops from there out.

Removal on some areas though seemed problematic I'm not sure if I worked it too long or not long enough but it seemed to gum up on the paint. Not the pad but the paint. To get it off I either A had to use a lot of pressure, or B work it a second time. It also seemed to load up the MF towel (Supreme 530's) quite quickly, I went through 8 on this car for the glaze alone!

I seen a little difference in the black paint between the KAIO and glaze but not a whole lot. My wife couldn't really see the difference.

I mainly wanted to try this for it's filling abilities (would've made my life easier with this car). As I don't really want to polish out this car as the front end is almost a lost cause. It's filling abilities to me weren't all that noticeable and a lot of the swirls and such were still quite visible by flashlight (my halogens aren't here, and I ran out of sunlight).

The surface of the car felt kinda strange to me too afterwards. It felt slick and clean, but almost kinda squeaky I guess you would say.

I topped it with Wolfgang DGPS afterwards but it was dark and lighting in my garage isn't all that great (used a Scorpion flashlight to double check for missed sections).

I'll have my misses take some photo's tomorrow after she gets home from work of the finished product as I will be working a 18 hour shift.

All the befores and durings are here, afters tomorrow night.

Before ONR:

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nrengle
09-22-2008, 11:29 PM
After ONR can start to see the swirls, and little kitty claw scratches. She doesn't think it's cute anymore when they climb on the car after I showed her that!

http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j107/nrengle/Emili%20Grand%20Prix%209-22-08/IMG_4634.jpg

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At the start of the glaze process (sorry there's not a lot of pics):

http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j107/nrengle/Emili%20Grand%20Prix%209-22-08/IMG_4646.jpg

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http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j107/nrengle/Emili%20Grand%20Prix%209-22-08/IMG_4651.jpg

Afters to come tomorrow.

Thanks for looking, and thanks to Meghan for the freebie!

ScottB
09-23-2008, 05:26 PM
I would only remind those using this product, to remember it is more of a finishing polish versus glaze. I have heard of a couple using it by hand and dont feel polish can break down properly in those instances.

Sorry for interuption...

tripperfx3
09-23-2008, 07:50 PM
Not to interupt either, but I own finishing glaze as well and am I correct in understanding that you have to break it down like a polish?

I look forward to seeing your results with just the glaze and the blue pad. That car is fairly trashed.

nrengle
09-23-2008, 09:10 PM
From what I read on AG's site, it said "Buff at 1000-1200 RPM (4000-4500 OPM on a dual action polisher) working slowly across and then up and down the area. You’re just trying to get a thin, even coat of glaze on the vehicle."

So that's how I applied it, no breaking down, cause it seemed it never really broke down. I even buffed at 1400rpm, and never really seemed to flash like a polish does.

No after shots cause my future wife decided to sleep instead of taking the pics for me. I've been at work since 10:30 am, and I'll be here again tomorrow at 10:30 am, so I'll have her take the pics tomorrow.

nrengle
09-23-2008, 09:12 PM
I would only remind those using this product, to remember it is more of a finishing polish versus glaze. I have heard of a couple using it by hand and dont feel polish can break down properly in those instances.

Sorry for interuption...


See I did not know that. I took it as being a glaze only. It didn't really have a oily or rough consistency to it like a lot of polishes out there. I'm not familiar with the feel of Menzerna polishes, but I do have some 85RD to test out (won't be able to do that till I get home in November from Europe).

ScottB
09-24-2008, 05:58 PM
I apologize for any confusion, I thought you were speaking of the Wolfgang 3.0 Finishing Glaze which is made by Menzerna for AG. I missed the reference to Meznerna and it is a true glaze. Sorry !

nrengle
09-24-2008, 11:24 PM
No worries...

And here's the afters. Not in direct sunlight, my fiancee didn't take them till later in the evening... But you get the gist for now. I really need to take the pics myself though to get the areas I highlighted in the befores. But for now....

http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j107/nrengle/Emili%20Grand%20Prix%209-22-08/IMG_4652-1.jpg

http://i78.photobucket.com/albums/j107/nrengle/Emili%20Grand%20Prix%209-22-08/IMG_4653.jpg

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The paint has the typical smoothness to it though now after a application of Wolfgang DGPS And it does look really good for how bad of shape the paint really is in...