10% IPA or 5% APC before waxing?

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Hi all,

What would you recommend to use before apply Meg's NXT 2.0 poly wax?

What I already did:
1. wash
2. clay
3. Mothers pre-wax cleaner - orange pad 3-6 passes
4. MF wipeout
5. overnight in garage

I have 90% IPA and Meg's APC
which one to use before apply Meg's NXT 2.0 liquid wax?
I plan to apply NXT twice - 8 hours apart

I read about 10% of IPA or 1:20 APC.
Which one?

tnx
Mike.
 
NXT has cleaners in it, so stripping the paint isn't completely necessary. You are already using a pre-wax cleaner so you should be able to apply directly after.
 
JonMiles said:
NXT has cleaners in it, so stripping the paint isn't completely necessary. You are already using a pre-wax cleaner so you should be able to apply directly after.
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Agreed. Also I used to use NXT a lot, and the durability is horrible. Do you have any other waxes?
 
Just my .02 but i'd trying something like klean strip prep all. No diluting.. Just damp your rag and wipe down the car. I usually follow with a damp rag (water) and buff dry (I overkill a lot).
IMO this makes a perfectly oil and lubricant free surface for any sealant or wax to bond to

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JonMiles said:
NXT has cleaners in it, so stripping the paint isn't completely necessary. You are already using a pre-wax cleaner so you should be able to apply directly after.
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:iagree: I didn't see the Pre-Wax cleaner.
 
thanks everyone.
I used NXT 2.0 the last year twice and it's almost full.
So, I used it and plan to do 2nd coat tomorrow.
Yes, I know that it isn't durable :-(

The next time I'll use something else, may be opti-coat or etc.
 
mikek753 said:
thanks everyone.
I used NXT 2.0 the last year twice and it's almost full.
So, I used it and plan to do 2nd coat tomorrow.
Yes, I know that it isn't durable :-(

The next time I'll use something else, may be opti-coat or etc.
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then you get to wax it more often :) lol
 
Ryan R said:
Just my .02 but i'd trying something like klean strip prep all. No diluting.. Just damp your rag and wipe down the car. I usually follow with a damp rag (water) and buff dry (I overkill a lot).
IMO this makes a perfectly oil and lubricant free surface for any sealant or wax to bond to

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That's what I was thinking after I recently did some paint ships on the hood and used a can of Wurth Prep-Solve I had around to clean the chips before painting.

I used Dr C-Chip paint/solvent with a Lanka method card in cloth removal tool and the chips came out looking great!
 
mikek753 said:
3. Mothers pre-wax cleaner - orange pad 3-6 passes
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How did using a heavy polishing pad (LC orange pad) with Mothers Pre-Wax Cleaner work?

I would be concerned about the orange pad leaving marring.
 
Ryan R said:
Just my .02 but i'd trying something like klean strip prep all. No diluting.. Just damp your rag and wipe down the car. I usually follow with a damp rag (water) and buff dry (I overkill a lot).
IMO this makes a perfectly oil and lubricant free surface for any sealant or wax to bond to

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Prep-All is a product specifically designed to really clean the surface making it ready for your favorite sealant or wax.

Meguiar's NXT is an a OK product but there are several sold through Autogeek that work so much better. Depending on your location and if you're looking for extended durability then something like the following;

Here are some other recommendations...

Sealants

Wax


One of my favorites

 
Bobby, welcome back!

What is the active ingredient in Prep All?
 
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Body shops use it daily. You have to treat it the same as you would any chemical. Wear gloves in a good ventilated area!
 
Not saying that benzene is not harmful....indeed it no doubt is....(there's always the % and purity of chemicals to think about also), but there's a lot of products that contain benzene:

{Note: The majority of the below info sourced from EPA's website, Household Products Chemicals List}

Adhesives, asphalts, calibrating fluid, charcoal lighter fluid, cigarette lighter fluid, contact cements, gasoline, glues, kerosene, hydraulic fluids, inks and ink markers, lacquer thinner, pesticides, processing film, rubber cement, solvents, and vinyl thinner, oven cleaners, detergents, polish, spot removers, among others.

Here's more specific ones, but again, not all inclusive:
Liquid Wrench
Rust-Ban 392
Sunoco Household Oil
3-In-One Electric Motor Oil
3-In-One Household Oil
Gardner Blacktop Driveway Sealer
Gardner EZ STIR Filler Sealer
Parks Furniture Refinisher
Parks Adhesive Remover
Parks Mineral Spirits Paint Thinner
Parks Lacquer Thinner
Parks Brush Cleaner
Parks PRO liquid Paint Stripper
Parks liquid Strip
Parks Lacquer Thinner 6/13/97
Parks Adhesive Remover 9/4/98
Parks liquid Deglosser 9/4/98
Gumoutregane Premium Gas Treatment
Gumoutxtra 1 Tank Carb Cleaner
Gumouttune Up Spray
Gumoutcarb/Fuel Injector Cleaner (Aerosol)
Gumoutcarb/Fuel Injector Cleaner (liquid)
Gumoutdiesel Fuel System Cleaner
Gumoutcold Weather Diesel Treatment
Gumoutliquid Intake Cleaner
Classic Aerosol Wax
Champion Carb. Cleaner
Champion Flush Off Degreaser
Champion Brake Cleaner
Champion Cold Galvanize
Champion Galv Off
Champion CS+
Champion N/F 4 Way Penetrating Oil
Champion Stainless Steel Cleaner
Champion X It Out Vandal Mark Remover
Champion Super Lubricant
Champion Spray Paint
Champion Flying Insect Killer
Champion Fire Ant Killer
Champion Multi Insect/lice Killer
Champion Indoor Insect Fogger
Champion Ant & Roach
Champion Metered Insecticide
Bonide Grass, Weed & Vegetation Killer
Ortho Weed-B-Gone
Staffel’s Screwwork Compound-U.S.
Formula M 62 Insecticide
Dr. Rogers Screw Worm Smear Formula No. 62
Martin’s Formula No. 62 Screw Work Smear for Horses and Mules
Thoroseal Redi Mix Paint
Naptha
VM & P Naptha


Benzene in Toluene Products:
Ethylbenzene
Toluene
Toluene + Xylene
Xylene

Benzene in Organic Solvents:
Butadiene
Butene
Cumene
Cyclohexanol
Cyclohexanol C
Dichloropentadiene
Isoprene
Monochlorobenzene
Piperylene
Hexane
Hexane C

Benzene in Solvents and Other Products:
Asphalt
Calibrating Fluid
Charcoal lighter Fluid
Contact cements
C9 Aromatics
Dicyclopentadiene
Elastomeric Adhesives
Ethylbenzene
Hexane
Hydraulic Fluds
Kerosene
Ink Markers
Lacquer Thinner
Lantern Fuel & Gas Stove
Leather Black and Stain
liquid Polish
liquid Wrench
Mineral Spirits
140* Flash Aliphatic
140* Flash Aliphatic: Solvent
Paste Polish
Rubber Cement
Rubber Solvent
Shell DAN
Shell Rubber solvent
Shell Sol Bj-77BG
Shell Sol BJ-19EG
Spray Lubricant
Slop Oil
Solvasol
Solvasol 2
Stoddard Solvent
Trimethybenzene
Unland screen developer
Varnish Makers
Vinyl Thinner
VM & P napthol
Coke Ovens

Some health effects of Benzene:
Acute Myelogenous Leukemia (AML), Non-Hodgkin’s Lymphoma, Chronic Lymphocytic Leukemia, Myelodysplastic Syndrome (MDS), Myelofibrosis and Myeloid Metaplasia, Aplastic Anemia, Acute Lymphocytic Leukemia (ALL), Hairy Cell Leukemia, Multiple Myeloma, Thrombocytopenic Purpura, Chronic Myelogenous Leukemia (CML), Hematologic Cancers.

Again...IMO...Care, and noting the chemical make-up should be taken when selecting not only car care products, but also in the selection/use of products for everyday-household and workplace environments as well.

Either that...Or have trust in your chemical suppliers


BTW....I am curious to find out what active ingredients are in CarPro's Erasure.....can someone please provide that info (MSDS)? Thanks in advance.



Back to your question OP:


Following the advice in JonMiles post would be a very good idea.

:)

Bob
 
CEE DOG said:
Bobby, welcome back!

What is the active ingredient in Prep All?
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Hey Corey,

Thanks!!

This is from the MSDS.

  1. Stoddard solvent {Mineral spirits; Aliphatic Petroleum Distillates; White spirits}
  2. Light aliphatic solvent naphtha (petroleum)
  3. Heptane
  4. Toluene {Benzene, Methyl-; Toluol}
 
BobbyG said:
Hey Corey,

Thanks!!

This is from the MSDS.

  1. Stoddard solvent {Mineral spirits; Aliphatic Petroleum Distillates; White spirits}
  2. Light aliphatic solvent naphtha (petroleum)
  3. Heptane
  4. Toluene {Benzene, Methyl-; Toluol}
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Hi BobbyG.......Welcome back!!

This (MSDS) doesn't mean I won't continue to use Prep-All or similar products. I also consider the %-by-volume, and the purity of the chemicals in products when deciding how to make the paint-film surface "squeaky clean".

I also use naptha, IPA, and mineral spirits. I tend to follow the directions/precautions/proper PPE while using all of these cleaners/solvents products, though.

Thanks for the posting. And hope your doing well.

:)

Bob
 
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