No rinse and buffer question

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So this year I am thinking of trying out a no rinse system this year instead of freezing. I have never tried before. Is it safe? Brand preference? What all will I need?

While I am asking that question I figured I would ask another. I currently am using a Porter Cable and have used it for years. I am wanting to buy a new one so I have two around for when my friend helps. Also because this one is getting old and I want something new! :) Buy the PC again? Or do you guys like something else? Thanks for any input you can provide.
 
I just started rinseless and waterless last week. I love both methods. They are safe if you are careful and use good technique.

ONR is awesome for rinseless.Optimum No Rinse Wash & Shine 128 oz. I highly recommend Lake Country Foam Car Wash Sponge. It releases a ton of soil when srubbed on a grit guard. I have tried the bone, the schmitt, MF towel, MF mitt and none work as good. I use two buckets with about 3 gallons in each bucket with a grit guard. One for ONR and other for water to rinse LC sponge. Make sure you clean the sponge often during washing. This is a good starter kit and priced fair ONR Two Bucket Wash System

I use Ultima Waterless Wash Plus+ Concentrate for waterless. I only use when slightly dirty. Use with a soft MF towel and turn often for a clean side.

Both ONR and UWWP are forum favorites. UWWP is also a great Quick Detailer.

Griot's Garage has more power and lifetime warranty. Porter Cable is good as well.

Flex 3401 would be a big upgrade in power. It is a forced dual action polisher. Kind of like a hybrid of a dual action and a rotary polisher.

Make sure you watch the videos for more information. There is information on polishers, two bucket wash method, rinseless and waterless washing.Autogeek As Seen On TV
 
I actually like DP Rinseless better than ONR. Seems to have more lubricity.

As for the machine, I agree, get the Griots. Lots of power, lifetime warranty, and a superior handle. Not the the PC is bad... It just isnt as good.
 
Great information. Thanks. I have watched the video about the different buffers but they basically just tell you about them. I know they are similar but I am sure everyone has their own preference. I actually have one of the first PC so it is pretty old. At times I feel like it doesn't have the power it use to have. I do like that it is easy to use even for beginners. I don't do a ton of detailing. Basically I have about 20 cars that I do on the side over the course of a year.

toycar18 said:
I just started rinseless and waterless last week. I love both methods. They are safe if you are careful and use good technique.

ONR is awesome for rinseless.Optimum No Rinse Wash & Shine 128 oz. I highly recommend Lake Country Foam Car Wash Sponge. It releases a ton of soil when srubbed on a grit guard. I have tried the bone, the schmitt, MF towel, MF mitt and none work as good. I use two buckets with about 3 gallons in each bucket with a grit guard. One for ONR and other for water to rinse LC sponge. Make sure you clean the sponge often during washing. This is a good starter kit and priced fair ONR Two Bucket Wash System

I use Ultima Waterless Wash Plus+ Concentrate for waterless. I only use when slightly dirty. Use with a soft MF towel and turn often for a clean side.

Both ONR and UWWP are forum favorites. UWWP is also a great Quick Detailer.

Griot's Garage has more power and lifetime warranty. Porter Cable is good as well.

Flex 3401 would be a big upgrade in power. It is a forced dual action polisher. Kind of like a hybrid of a dual action and a rotary polisher.

Make sure you watch the videos for more information. There is information on polishers, two bucket wash method, rinseless and waterless washing.Autogeek As Seen On TV
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That's the stuff I wanted to hear about the buffer. If you are getting ready to polish is it a bad thing to have more of that lubricity? Wasn't sure if left a film on the paint that wouldn't mix well with the polish, wax, etc..


tw33k2514 said:
I actually like DP Rinseless better than ONR. Seems to have more lubricity.

As for the machine, I agree, get the Griots. Lots of power, lifetime warranty, and a superior handle. Not the the PC is bad... It just isnt as good.
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The lubricity of the wash should not be a problem when polishing. Especially if the car has been dried properly first.
 
aaron427 said:
That's the stuff I wanted to hear about the buffer. If you are getting ready to polish is it a bad thing to have more of that lubricity? Wasn't sure if left a film on the paint that wouldn't mix well with the polish, wax, etc..
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You can polish right over them no problem.
 
Great! Thank you for the input. I have a couple of pad questions also. Would I do that under this section? Or is there a better section for those questions?
 
Curious how many uses typically you get from a pad? How many pads you use on a car? I feel like my pad gets saturated fast and it seems the pad doesn't work/feel so great after I use on a car, then wash the pad. Suggestions, advice? Hard to find good information on product/pad use after that first panel. You know?
 
aaron427 said:
Curious how many uses typically you get from a pad? How many pads you use on a car? I feel like my pad gets saturated fast and it seems the pad doesn't work/feel so great after I use on a car, then wash the pad. Suggestions, advice? Hard to find good information on product/pad use after that first panel. You know?
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You can get lots of uses from a pad. Just need to clean, dry and reuse. 2-3 pads on a car is typical. Make sure you aren't using too much product.

A pad conditioner and a good cleaner will help, XMT Pad Care Combo
 
how do you clean your pads after you use them? And during the process are you cleaning on the fly after every 1-2 panels?
 
That is what I was looking for. What is the best way to clean the pad after a section pass? I don't typically do it after each section pass.
 
I usually clean the pad on the fly after 2 panels maybe? I turn the polisher on while pushing on a terry cloth towel. After I am finished with the pad I usually wash them off in the sink, and then throw them in the washer. I don't usually wash anything else with them.

tw33k2514 said:
how do you clean your pads after you use them? And during the process are you cleaning on the fly after every 1-2 panels?
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aaron427 said:
I usually clean the pad on the fly after 2 panels maybe? I turn the polisher on while pushing on a terry cloth towel. After I am finished with the pad I usually wash them off in the sink, and then throw them in the washer. I don't usually wash anything else with them.
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Your cleaning on the fly technique sounds fine. As for your washing technique.. Try just hand washing them. I have had bad results with the washer and pads. What I do is pre treat my pads with APC when I am done with them. Then I rinse them off, and just work in more APC and hot water until they are clean. I then air dry them.
 
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