View Full Version : Collinite Sapphire PreWax Cleaner #840 issue?
kavncool
09-02-2012, 11:34 PM
Anyone has experience for this product? last week i used it before applying 845, and i
found that it is really hard to buff off by hand..."just wondering why"
I use 7424XP and CCS black pad with speed 2, and buff off by microfiber towl by hard
neat e34
09-03-2012, 03:41 AM
Haven't used this myself (see below) but on the AG product page they mention that #840 will need to be buffed off almost immediately & seem to suggest it may be best used by hand. If using a machine they suggest working no more than one panel at a time before buffing...
Did you do this or work on the whole car then buff?
#840 is also recommended only for single-stage paints, not base/clear.
Others may have used this on clear-coated cars & had good results (I'm not sure...) but I have stayed away due to that recommendation...
FUNX650
09-03-2012, 06:41 AM
-I realize that there are tinted clear-coat paints...
-But because of what the Collinite folks actually mean in their #840 product description
is unclear (pardon the pun) to me, I do not use it on any BC/CC paint system.
-Light-colored clear-coat paint vs. Dark clear-coat paint?
Just means, to me, that any "marring" incurred from #840's usage is harder
to see on/in a clear-coat top-coat paint film that's atop
a lighter colored base-coat paint that's integral to a BC/CC paint system.
-I also recommend reading #840's application/removal processes.
2. Recommended for:
• Tarnished/soiled/stained/discolored/weathered surfaces
• Light colored clear coat paints (?)<<<My questioning mark (white, silver), fiberglass, gel-coat
2a. NOT for use on:
• Dark clear coat paint (?)<<<My questioning mark or painted metals
• Surfaces unmentioned above, as testing has yet to be extensively conducted. Refer to Collinite
directly with application inquiries.
Source:
http://www.collinite.com/assets/Uploads/Product-Tech-Sheets-PDF/TTech840pdf.pdf
:)
Bob
ihaveacamaro
09-03-2012, 07:22 AM
Hey Bob, what I think it means is that for light colored cars that have a clear coat, it's good. And for dark colored cars that have a clear coat, it shouldn't be used.
FUNX650
09-03-2012, 07:58 AM
Hey Bob, what I think it means is that for light colored cars that have a clear coat, it's good. And for dark colored cars that have a clear coat, it shouldn't be used.
Thanks for your reply ihaveacamaro.
Yes...I do understand that's what the 'Collinite-Folks' say...
But...Why is this so?
As I alluded to earlier:
Is it because it's harder to see swirls/marring in a clear-coat that's part
of a lighter-colored base-coat: BC/CC paint system...
...No matter the brand name of the pre-wax cleaner,
or other abrasive-containing products, that's being used??...Or not?!?!
Any answers/input that you offer/provide regarding this issue will be appreciated.
Thanks!
:)
Bob
kavncool
09-03-2012, 11:20 AM
Haven't used this myself (see below) but on the AG product page they mention that #840 will need to be buffed off almost immediately & seem to suggest it may be best used by hand. If using a machine they suggest working no more than one panel at a time before buffing...
Did you do this or work on the whole car then buff?
#840 is also recommended only for single-stage paints, not base/clear.
Others may have used this on clear-coated cars & had good results (I'm not sure...) but I have stayed away due to that recommendation...
First i work half panel then buff off, but it seems really hard to buff off, maybe last time i
will try to use hand to see what happen....
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