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I'm looking to get the wettest wet look using the 3 products below as I have them all on-hand. I'm hoping y'all can pick the XXXX product below for me. BTW - I have a dark blue Civic. In terms of durability - I'm hoping the sealant will add the durability but applying the glaze and wax each weekend isn't a problem.

DG 601
DG 105
XXXX
Natty's Blue

XXXX equals:
CG EZ Glaze Acrylic Shine II or Wet Mirror Finish
OG Omega
Megs #7
Red Moose Glaze

Thanks,
Howard
 
Anything wrong with using the 3 you have already picked out?What did you use to polish? Personally I would skip the glaze, If the Natty's on top of the 105 can't get it done I'm not sure what will.
 
I have RMG and EZ-Creme, both are IMO the best glazes around. But have to give the edge to EZ-Creme. EZ-Creme can even be used as a stand alone b/c of the acrylic makeup that makes it last. Very, very wet and deep. Appying glaze and wax each weekend is kinda of a waste though, no need to, just clean and qd'.
 
Between EZ-Creme and Wet Mirror Finish, which do you prefer Surfer? Or anyone else.
I've been eyeing that CG EZ Creme, and WMF on your list, Howard! Both sound good.
 
Red Moose would be my choice ... even makes Souveran look a little wetter.
 
red moose is great...wmf i think gets the edge over all of them..
 
killrwheels@autogeek said:
Red Moose would be my choice ... even makes Souveran look a little wetter.
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:iagree: :iagree: My also goes to RMG.
 
I see what you mean now..you want to use over the 105....it may work out good..but may not last as long as say the EZ creme glaze...

I only used RMG under a wax on polished paint..so can not comment on what you want to do...sorry...

Al
 
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Go RMG its the best glaze around IMO. I wouldnt even bother with any sealants, also they wont bond over RMG. Just go wash>clay>polish>rmg>wax.

If youre worried abotu durability, use collinite 845 or for beter looks, collinite 915, these will outlast an average sealant and with better looks and ability to bond over an oil glaze like RMG.

Since autogeek doesnt carry clearkote anymore, I would suggest ordering directly from their website because they will give you samples of other products for free.

ClearKote Red Moose Machine Glaze

and the wax

Collinite Marque D’Elegance Carnauba Paste Wax #915

Of course if durability isnt a problem, go with souveran or natty's or zymol.
 
Al-53 said:
I like the EZ glaze....it is very versatile ..you can apply it under a sealant and over it and between layers...and gives a nice deep wet look...I have the Wet Mirror but have not tried it yet so can not comment on it....

RMG is good also..but some sealants do not play well with the oils in it....it can decrease the durability from the lack of a proper bonding...

taken from the RMG description

Glazes are usually composed of various oils and other components to give a wet look to paint. Glazes look best on darker colors like red, blue and black. They offer a lot of depth and wetness. Be sure to use them after your polishing is done and before you apply your wax or sealant.

Carnauba waxes work best when used on top of a glaze. The oils in glazes sometimes cause bonding issues with certain finicky sealants.

RMG is great under a wax by far...but as said some sealants do not play well with oils ...and thats why DG has the bonding agent to remove wax oils for bonding...

Al
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Al - not sure how to interpret your post. Are you saying RMG will work well with DG 601 and 105 together? Also, when the "bonding agent removes wax oils for bonding" what does that affect in terms of appearance and/or durability? I didn't look yet but I assume Natty's Blue is a carnauba wax. I know you are a big advocate of DG....just want to confirm it will work well with CG or RMG. Hope to see your opinions on WMF in the near future.

Thanks,
Howard
 
Bags said:
Anything wrong with using the 3 you have already picked out?What did you use to polish? Personally I would skip the glaze, If the Natty's on top of the 105 can't get it done I'm not sure what will.
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I think Natty's on top of 105 gives a nice reflection but was looking for a more wet look. Also, I didn't polish. I clayed and then used AIO to get a good surface for 601.

Howard
 
Surfer said:
I have RMG and EZ-Creme, both are IMO the best glazes around. But have to give the edge to EZ-Creme. EZ-Creme can even be used as a stand alone b/c of the acrylic makeup that makes it last. Very, very wet and deep. Appying glaze and wax each weekend is kinda of a waste though, no need to, just clean and qd'.
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okay....thanks. Wasn't sure how long the glaze will last. Never used one before.

Howard
 
YankeeFan said:
okay....thanks. Wasn't sure how long the glaze will last. Never used one before.

Howard
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CG EZ-Creme is different, it's an acrylic makeup, not an oil glaze like RMG which though great after a couple washes the glaze is gone. EZ-Creme can be a standalone and will last over a month by itself, and looks seriously wet and glossy, IMO having both it has an edge over RMG which is pretty impressive. Either one though is great. I also have XMT glaze and it's not even on the same level as those two. I did my biz partners black Lexus with EZ-Creme and CG 5050 wax and it just looked incredible. Natty's Blue is also an excellent wax, I have others that cost more then it, yet I still love Natty's Blue, 15 bucks and it competes with waxes costing much much more.

RMG and EZ-Creme are the best around.
 
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Yankee what i was trying to say was RMG has oils in it and some sealants do not play well with oils..so 105 is one of them..thats why DG came up with the bonding agent to clean the surface of any oils or wax so 111 and 105 can bond to the paint better...so if you used the bonding agent over RMG it will get cleaned off by the bonding agent...if you use just 105 over RMG you may have problems with 105 bonding to the paint....

You would be better off with the EZ Creme glaze....its a acrylic formula and no oils...plus you can use it under and over a sealant or wax if you layer them..sorta like this...EZC..105...ezc..105.ezc...that works

I Have the Wet Mirror product but have not used it so I can not comment on it..others here have used it and gave cooments on it....

RMG is basicly for a wax topper.....
hope this is better to understand....

Al
 
Al-53 said:
Yankee what i was trying to say was RMG has oils in it and some sealants do not play well with oils..so 105 is one of them..thats why DG came up with the bonding agent to clean the surface of any oils or wax so 111 and 105 can bond to the paint better...so if you used the bonding agent over RMG it will get cleaned off by the bonding agent...if you use just 105 over RMG you may have problems with 105 bonding to the paint....

You would be better off with the EZ Creme glaze....its a acrylic formula and no oils...plus you can use it under and over a sealant or wax if you layer them..sorta like this...EZC..105...ezc..105.ezc...that works

I Have the Wet Mirror product but have not used it so I can not comment on it..others here have used it and gave cooments on it....

RMG is basicly for a wax topper.....
hope this is better to understand....

Al
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I understand the oils of a glaze will affect bonding of the sealant if applied first but is there an issue if applied 2nd ......for instance, the sequence I had was 601, then 105, then RMG, then Natty's Blue. Can RMG be applied after 105 without a bonding issue?

How about if the glaze is applied 3rd (after the sealant and wax). For instance, at the end of your post you wrote "RMG is basically for a wax topper" so can a glaze, like RMG, ever be applied after a wax or is that never done?

Sorry, I know these at dumb questions but my first attempt at understanding what product goes first. I most likely will go with your suggestion of using EZC but was just curious, for future reference, if the scenerios I have written can play out well with no bonding issues

Thanks for your help,
Howard
 
Yankee....i went to edit my post and it never showed up..it just reposted the old one...lol...


here was my last post

I seen what you mean now in your first post..you want to do RMG OVER the 105...not under it...lol.....I got confused..sorry...

The RMG wil work over the 105..but may not last long as those types of glazes...(oil Based) ...never do ..even with a wax topper as the oils migrate some to the top...being washed away later reducing the effects...

The EZ creme glaze is a bit different....adds the wet look and depth but is acrylic and will last longer..I used it with 105 and was very impressed with it...I layered it with 105....polished paint>>>EZCG>>>105>>> EZCG>>> 105.. and it looked great...

Try the RMG you may like the looks..but my choice would be EZCG ....

there will be no bonding issue using like you want to...

Al
 
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Al-53 said:
Yankee....i went to edit my post and it never showed up..it just reposted the old one...lol...


here was my last post

I seen what you mean now in your first post..you want to do RMG OVER the 105...not under it...lol.....I got confused..sorry...

The RMG wil work over the 105..but may not last long as those types of glazes...(oil Based) ...never do ..even with a wax topper as the oils migrate some to the top...being washed away later reducing the effects...

The EZ creme glaze is a bit different....adds the wet look and depth but is acrylic and will last longer..I used it with 105 and was very impressed with it...I layered it with 105....polished paint>>>EZCG>>>105>>> EZCG>>> 105.. and it looked great...

Try the RMG you may like the looks..but my choice would be EZCG ....

there will be no bonding issue using like you want to...

Al
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Thanks!!

Howard
 
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