Necessary to do M105 before M205?

M

macboi

New member
Joined
May 25, 2010
Messages
14
Reaction score
0
I'm getting ready to polish my car this weekend, I've been researching weather or not to do the 105 prior to the 205. My paint is fairly in good condition with minimum scratches. My question is, when would you know to use the cut before the polish?
 
If the polish achieves the result you want on your test spot, there really is no reason to go any more aggressive. Work your way up until you achieve the results your desire.
 
theblob640 said:
If the polish achieves the result you want on your test spot, there really is no reason to go any more aggressive. Work your way up until you achieve the results your desire.
Click to expand...


Thanks!! I asked around everywhere locally and everyone told me that I HAVE to cut before I polish, but couldn't give me a reason as to why I need to go so aggressive. Thanks for commenting!
 
theblob640 said:
If the polish achieves the result you want on your test spot,
there really is no reason to go any more aggressive.
Work your way up until you achieve the results your desire.
Click to expand...
^^^Good advice^^^ :props:

Bob
 
But I heard that if you don't use M105 before M205 that the world will come to an end. So you're saying this isn't true? :)
 
erichaley said:
But I heard that if you don't use M105 before M205 that the world will come to an end. So you're saying this isn't true? :)
Click to expand...

Yes sir, if m205 removed all the defects, doing m105 prior to m205 will not only waste time and product, it will also remove clear coat that really didnt needed to be removed.
 
Im new to polishing and I also use the 105 205 21 combo, I go panel to panel, only hitting or doing spot work with 105. I will then polish entire panel with 205, do a IPA wipedown followed by M21 to seal. Im learning practice practice, and be content with saying "thats good enough" have fun.
 
This is good knowledge to pass along to your customers and possibly gain more respect and business.
 
BradsDetailing said:
This is good knowledge to pass along to your customers and possibly gain more respect and business.
Click to expand...
I wish I had customers who were interested in a real detail, instead of a wash n dry, but I enjoy what I do.
 
theblob640 said:
Yes sir, if m205 removed all the defects, doing m105 prior to m205 will not only waste time and product, it will also remove clear coat that really didnt needed to be removed.
Click to expand...


I have some stubborn bug marks that I am hoping the 105 would/could take care of it. Pics after the weekend to see if I can answer my own question. :props:
 
macboi said:
I have some stubborn bug marks that I am hoping the 105 would/could take care of it. Pics after the weekend to see if I can answer my own question. :props:
Click to expand...
have you tried clay yet? Or a bug sponge, spray or even polishing by hand?
 
BradsDetailing said:
have you tried clay yet? Or a bug sponge, spray or even polishing by hand?
Click to expand...

I bought the car used about 6 months ago and the bugs were there up to that point. I tried clay.. Scrubbing .... Steaming it.. Nothing is working so I will try to compound it tomorrow and see if it works, if not then it will probably be painted.
 
To add to the original question/answer...think of it this way, you have a scratch on a piece of wood, you wouldn't hit it with 80 grit first, you'd try 150 or 220 first to see if that worked.

LEAST aggressive first and always.

Bill
 
Just got done polishing my car and now I'm sad. I previously put Cquartz on the last time so now when I polish, it left this oil streaks on my car and polishing did not get it out. I moved up to a more aggressive method and still no hope. Sigh. One whole day ruined.
 
macboi said:
I'm getting ready to polish my car this weekend, I've been researching weather or not to do the 105 prior to the 205.
My paint is fairly in good condition with minimum scratches. My question is, when would you know to use the cut before the polish?
macboi said:
I bought the car used about 6 months ago and the bugs were there up to that point.
I tried clay.. Scrubbing .... Steaming it.. Nothing is working so I will try to compound
it tomorrow and see if it works, if not then it will probably be painted.
macboi said:
Just got done polishing my car and now I'm sad.
I previously put Cquartz on the last time so now when I polish,
it left this oil streaks on my car and polishing did not get it out.
I moved up to a more aggressive method and still no hope.
Sigh. One whole day ruined.
Click to expand...
Click to expand...
Click to expand...
So you're saying that sometime within the last six months you put
CQuartz atop paint that had a minimum of scratches (and possibly bugs); and, now:
First-off...M205, then M105, is leaving oil streaks while polishing/compounding?

Are you trying to remove the CQuartz...
Or just not having any luck with the bug removal?

Bob
 
theblob640 said:
Yes sir, if m205 removed all the defects, doing m105 prior to m205 will not only waste time and product, it will also remove clear coat that really didnt needed to be removed.
Click to expand...

FUNX725 said:
So you're saying that sometime within the last six months you put
CQuartz atop paint that had a minimum of scratches (and possibly bugs); and, now:
First-off...M205, then M105, is leaving oil streaks while polishing/compounding?

Are you trying to remove the CQuartz...
Or just not having any luck with the bug removal?

Bob
Click to expand...

When I purchased the car. The first I did was polish and put Cquartz on the paint. But the bug stains were there from the day I bought the car and were told I needed to repaint the hood in order to clear them off. Just this past weekend, I wanted to remove the Cquartz to put on opticoat, now as I'm polishing with the 205.. I noticed the oil streaks after each polishing. Then, I moved to the 105 to see if I can remove it and all it's doing
Is moving that oil streaks around. So I never had the chance to put opticoat on because of it. Kinda had a fail weekend
 
macboi said:
When I purchased the car. The first I did was polish and put Cquartz on the paint. But the bug stains were there from the day I bought the car and were told I needed to repaint the hood in order to clear them off. Just this past weekend, I wanted to remove the Cquartz to put on opticoat, now as I'm polishing with the 205.. I noticed the oil streaks after each polishing. Then, I moved to the 105 to see if I can remove it and all it's doing
Is moving that oil streaks around. So I never had the chance to put opticoat on because of it. Kinda had a fail weekend
Click to expand...

Since you said they are oil streaks and they move around when doing m105, it doesn't seem like a paint problem. Did you try doing an IPA wipedown on that panel to see if the oil streaks go away?
 
theblob640 said:
Since you said they are oil streaks and they move around when doing m105, it doesn't seem like a paint problem. Did you try doing an IPA wipedown on that panel to see if the oil streaks go away?
Click to expand...

I did . I also clayed it but it seems I'm only moving that cquartz around.
 
macboi said:
I did . I also clayed it but it seems I'm only moving that cquartz around.
Click to expand...

Sorry I cannot be of much help at this point. I have never had experience using CQuartz before. Hopefully someone who does can chime in.
 
theblob640 said:
Sorry I cannot be of much help at this point. I have never had experience using CQuartz before. Hopefully someone who does can chime in.
Click to expand...

You've been helpful enough. I don't think anyone has dealt with this because everyone is usually pretty happy with the cquartz. I only did it because I wanted to test out the opticoat
 
You must log in or register to reply here.
Back
Top