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Mike Phillips
03-18-2014, 07:56 AM
Flex 3401 - How to clean your pad on the fly (http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/ask-expert-featuring-mike-phillips/77784-flex-3401-how-clean-your-pad-fly.html)


There isn't a way to clean your pad on the fly like I show in this article for the Porter Cable and tools similar to the Porter Cable, (free spinning drive mechanism), but what I show below will get the job done.

How to clean your foam pad on the fly (http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/how-articles/20135-how-clean-your-foam-pad-fly.html)



The big picture is to have a way to get "most" of the gunk that builds up on the face of your pad off the pad and to do this QUICKLY so you can get back to work.

That's what the words on the fly pertain to. That is doing the task quickly so you can get back to work buffing out a car.

The only time the car is getting buffed out is when the pad is against the paint.

Make sense?


The gunk that builds-up on the face of your pad is,


Spent product
Removed paint

Just like you wipe the residue off the paint after buffing out a section you want to remove this same type of built-up residue off the face of your pad.

Why it's important to clean your pads often... (http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/tricks-tips-techniques/28755-why-s-important-clean-your-pads-often.html)




Here's how to clean your pads on the fly when using a Flex 3401

Cotton Terrycloth Towel
I demonstrated this in my Flex 3401 Class at Detail Fest so while this class was taped live, there were people standing in front of me during the cleaning demo so all you see are their backs.

Basically, fold a towel into a ball and hold it tightly against the pad as it spins. Here's a screenshot from my power point presentation.

http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/749/Clean_Pad_On_Fly_Flex_3401c.jpg

Note: You want to use terry cloth towel for this, like a wash cloth or a hand towel as the characteristic of terrycloth is the fibers are more stout than soft gentle microfibers that make-up microfiber towels and you need this stoutness to help clean the gunk off the pad.


Nylon Pad Conditioning Brush
You can also hold a nylon pad conditioning brush against the face of the pad with the machine turned on but if you push very hard at all it will tend to tear up the foam.

http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/749/Clean_Pad_On_Fly_Flex_3401d.jpg


What I do instead is simply brush the face of the pad with the pad conditioning brush with the machine turned OFF.

Still does a good job and doesn't tear up your pad.


Pad Conditioning Brush (http://www.autogeek.net/padtool.html)


:)

Mike@DedicatedPerfection
03-18-2014, 08:06 AM
Flex 3401 - How to clean your pad on the fly.

What I do instead is simply brush the face of the pad with the pad conditioning brush with the machine turned OFF.
Still does a good job and doesn't tear up your pad.

:)

Very nice article Mike on cleaning your pad "on the fly" concerning the 3401.

I personaly have found the best results when keeping the machine off and just brushing the face of the pad while at rest. IME, if holding the brush against the pad while running the machine can accelerate the wear of the pad.

parttimer
03-18-2014, 08:07 AM
Thanks! I end up with foam bits all over when using the Flex and brush, obviously pushing too hard. I'll try the towel trick next.

Mike Phillips
03-18-2014, 08:23 AM
I personally have found the best results when keeping the machine off and just brushing the face of the pad while at rest.

IME, if holding the brush against the pad while running the machine can accelerate the wear of the pad.




The holding the pad cleaning tool against the face of the pad while spinning that pad at speed is a carryover from the way you clean a wool or foam pad on a rotary buffer.


Lake Country Wool Pad Spur (http://www.autogeek.net/wool-pad-spur.html)


http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/797/NewToRB006.jpg

http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/936/medium/Sept19ADVClass097.jpg




While this works great with rotary buffers, (it still tears up the foam but it's not bad for wool), and most of all...

it's f-a-s-t....

And if you're doing some type of project where you're using a wool pad on a rotary buffer chances are VERY GOOD it's a huge project and again... you need a way to clean your pad on the fly and get back to work.

That said, this carryover technique when used with a Flex 3401 just doesn't work as well as simply leaving the tool OFF and brushing the face of the pad with your brush.

You never get your pads 100% clean and that's not the goal. The goal is to get most of the gunk off the face of the pad so you can get back to work. Swap out to clean, dry pads as needed and as soften as your budget allows.



The big pictures is to find a way that works for you to clean your pad so you can,


Work clean.
Get back to work.
Maximize the efficiency of any fresh product you use.
Make wipe-off of the spent product easier on you.

:)

GenesisCoupe
03-18-2014, 09:03 AM
I use a terry cloth when cleaning on the fly, really good article Mike!

Mike@DedicatedPerfection
03-18-2014, 09:58 AM
The holding the pad cleaning tool against the face of the pad while spinning that pad at speed is a carryover from the way you clean a wool or foam pad on a rotary buffer.


Lake Country Wool Pad Spur (http://www.autogeek.net/wool-pad-spur.html)


The big pictures is to find a way that works for you to clean your pad so you can,


Work clean.
Get back to work.
Maximize the efficiency of any fresh product you use.
Make wipe-off of the spent product easier on you.
:)

Completely agree with you Mike on the rotary application with wool.

Back in Las Vegas while I was in the body shop I would spur the pad every time I put the machine to use. Whether I was pulling a fresh pad from the drawer or after completing a panel, I always spured the pad.


Working surgically clean is paramount to a quality finish.

:)

Eric@CherryOnTop
03-18-2014, 11:03 AM
I use the same terry cloth towel trick to clean my pad with a 3401. I use two or three sections of towel each time to get as much spent product and residue out of the pad.

Mike (smack), I've definitely torn up a few softer pads using a pad brush on a spinning pad. Oops, you live and learn :-p


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Mike@DedicatedPerfection
03-18-2014, 12:53 PM
Mike (smack), I've definitely torn up a few softer pads using a pad brush on a spinning pad. Oops, you live and learn :-p

Been there, done that! lol

Angler
03-18-2014, 01:30 PM
Thank you, Mike (and Yancy) for posting this thread. When you mentioned during your Sunday morning presentation on the FLEX 3401 at Detail Fest that you would show your audience how to clean the FLEX 3401 on the fly I was real curious to see that since I recalled from your earlier thread of "Cleaning your DA Pad on the Fly" that it only pertained to the PC, GG and Megs DAs.

Great information as always! :xyxthumbs:

dfoxengr
03-18-2014, 02:13 PM
Do you ever spray the pad with a little water before using the terry towel to help break up any clumps?

Mike Phillips
07-16-2014, 02:43 PM
Do you ever spray the pad with a little water before using the terry towel to help break up any clumps?




I don't but you could.

Just drawing a nylon brush against the face of the pad with the tool turned OFF works about the best. At least good enough to remove most of what could cause a problem so you can get back to work.


:)