M205 or SF4500?

[tommythecat]

I am polishing out a White Camaro next weekend for a car show. I was wondering if I should use M205 (already have) or pick up some SF4500 for the final polishing step. I will be using WG Uber for the compounding step.

Thanks!!

[hernandez.art13]

Well since Uber Compound finishes out really nice. Since you already have it I would assume M205 would work great. If anything I think pad choice would be something you might want to consider changing first if you aren't getting the results you are after along with speed and pressure, passes, technique, etc...

So what pad(s) and machine(s) are you planning on using?

[The Guz]

Use what you have. You could even use M205 on a finishing pad and see how it finishes.

[tommythecat]

Will be using a GGDA. I was planning on orange pad for the compund, and white pad for finishing. I think I have a couple of blue and black pads also that I can go down to for the finishing step.

[Mike@DedicatedPerfection]

What you have on hand will be fine. M205 on white will pull out any hazing left from your first step and finish out really well.

[silverfox]

M205 can finish just as well as 4500. Stick with it. Actually carpro reflect or HD polish blows them both out of the water in my opinion but we're talking about polishing white here, so stick with the 205 and save money.



Want to know what looks insane on white ...?..DG 501. I mean insane. Just a thought.

[tommythecat]

M205 can finish just as well as 4500. Stick with it. Actually carpro reflect or HD polish blows them both out of the water in my opinion but we're talking about polishing white here, so stick with the 205 and save money.



Want to know what looks insane on white ...?..DG 501. I mean insane. Just a thought.

If I go with the DG 501, which pad should I use? I have no experience with Duragloss products.

I know with white that no matter what I finish with, there isn't going to be a great deal of difference looks wise. This car won it's class last year at this car show and I would like to repeat last years win. If it wasn't for a dealership wrecking the finish when it went in for service I wouldn't have to go through this much trouble. :buffing:

[BobbyG]

Use a White foam pad for Duragloss #501.

I've used just about all of what Duragloss offers and have never been disappointed with any of their products. Duragloss Aquawax is one of the best spray waxes out there and is perfect for use once every few weeks to keep that gloss looking beautiful...:props:

[tommythecat]

Thanks for all the responses guys!! I will be posting up pics after I am done with the project next weekend.

[HUMP DIESEL]

WG Compound will finish out LSP ready if you do the SMACK technique. The last passes should be light and let the machine just glide over the paint. If you want more, just like everyone else says, use what you have now before you buy more. Buy more later when you want to try something.
I use FG400 with a MEGS Cutting disc on a white Dodge work truck, using the technique I mentioned above allowed me to finish LSP ready.

HUMP

[Mike Phillips]

Here's my 2 cents...

Clearcoated white is one of the most forgiving color there is so M205 is more than enough to do any clean-up work after Uber Compound and like everyone else has said, Uber Compound finishes down really nice to start with using good technique and most important... cleaning your pad often before the last final passes.


As for an LSP?

I think a paint coating is really a good option to maximize gloss and shine because that's about all you can get out of white... you can't get deep, dark reflections...

Gloss comes from a smooth surface so focus first on getting the paint as flat and smooth as possible and then tackle the below surface defects like swirls and scratches.

Here's a white finish wit a coating on it....

Cleaned & Coated in 3 Hours - 2014 Jeep Grand Cherokee (http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/ask-expert-featuring-mike-phillips/69413-cleaned-coated-3-hours-2014-jeep-grand-cherokee.html)



http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/2024/Jeep_Grand_Cherokee_023.jpg

http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/2024/Jeep_Grand_Cherokee_014.jpg

http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/2024/Jeep_Grand_Cherokee_0151.jpg

http://www.autogeekonline.net/gallery/data/2024/Jeep_Grand_Cherokee_017.jpg



Good luck and already looking forward to your after-the-show follow-up post.


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[tommythecat]

Thanks again guys for all the suggestions!!

Hump...I remember reading about the smack technique and will give that a try. I really do love how Uber finishes down, and for my own DD it was where I stopped because it looked that good!!

Mike...I was originally going to go with a spray sealant like BFCS or something similar, but after using the DP paint coating about a dozen times now I think I will go with your suggestion of a coating. Especially since the DP coating looks exceptionally good the first few days after coating and I already have it.

Silverfox/BobbyG...thanks for the heads up on the DG 501. It will be in my next order for sure. It seems like it will be a nice supplement to D151 specifically for 1-steps on white cars. If it wasn't for the dealership going to town on his car I could have skipped compounding altogether and done this instead.

[HUMP DIESEL]

Thanks again guys for all the suggestions!!

Hump...I remember reading about the smack technique and will give that a try. I really do love how Uber finishes down, and for my own DD it was where I stopped because it looked that good!!

Mike...I was originally going to go with a spray sealant like BFCS or something similar, but after using the DP paint coating about a dozen times now I think I will go with your suggestion of a coating. Especially since the DP coating looks exceptionally good the first few days after coating and I already have it.

Silverfox/BobbyG...thanks for the heads up on the DG 501. It will be in my next order for sure. It seems like it will be a nice supplement to D151 specifically for 1-steps on white cars. If it wasn't for the dealership going to town on his car I could have skipped compounding altogether and done this instead.

Yep, that is what I was talking about. And Mike has a great point about white, you can blind people with a white car.

HUMP

[chet31]

I use both products, have hard clear coat, metallic dark gray finish, and I find the SF4500 produces a little extra clarity after using M205. It's subtle, and I'm not sure it's worth the extra effort, but it's there.

[Mike@DedicatedPerfection]

I use both products, have hard clear coat, metallic dark gray finish, and I find the SF4500 produces a little extra clarity after using M205. It's subtle, and I'm not sure it's worth the extra effort, but it's there.

Agreed.

M205 is on level with SF4000 in terms of performance. i.e. cut and clarity.

SF4500 pushes that envelope past the capabilities of M205 and SF4000.