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OCD Detailing

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My friend and I started a detailing company a few months ago. In doing so we got an addiction to trying products and brushes. The reason I am saying this is just to say that I have tried everything to solve my problem.

The photos below show my personal car. It seems no matter what I do I get a haze on the wheel once dried. I have use deionized water, RO, water, and regular water. I have used Adam's deep wheel cleaner, Sonax wheel cleaner, Meg's wheel cleaner and a few others. I have I have used just the hose with no nozzle to our Honda powered pressure washer. I have dried them with MF and with my new Master Blaster. I even applied the CG's wheel wax but nothing solves the problem.

The haze you see wipes off but I am wondering why it is there to begin with? I make sure to rinse until the water runs clear so I don't think I am leaving product on them. The wheels themselves are high quality Yokohama Advans so I assume the finish is decent.

From a distance they don't look bad, but in the close up you can see the haze. I set exposure to make the haze stand out. You can see the problem area down by the bottom of the spoke, It seems to get there most and on the barrel.

Thank you for any advice.

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First, tell us how you drive it. For me, it would be scalded dog, but maybe you dont wind it up that often. If you're hard on it then its probably the massive Brembo's throwing dust like an Afgan sand storm. If not, then I still think its normal for a vehicle like that. Have you tried a brake dust barrier? Even the OTC options like Armor All get good reviews.

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Looks like caked on brake dust. Do you use a wheel brush to agitate the wheel cleaner?
 
I have all kinds of brushes. Got a brush addiction and always buying different ones. I used the Sonax in the photos posted and used 2 or 3 different brushes. Blew them dry with the Master Blaster. I did put the CG's wheel wax on them about a month ago.

My driving habits are random. I seem to turn into Sebstian Vettel when I hit the on ramps and off ramps. Every once in awhile I get a Mustang, M3, Vette, Porsche, etc that pick on me, but after I show them the replacement for displacement I am not really slamming on the brakes, just coasting back down to the speed limit. I do try and go to the track once a month but it's been about 6 months since I have gone and I have only had the wheels about 4 months. I am running Raybestos track pads but I would think the sonax and scrubbing or the Adam's deep wheel cleaner and scrubbing would get it. But like I said, it does wipe off once dry, just kind of a pain. They never look perfect. I have also tried quick detailer on them.

Thank for the info everybody
 
I'm with Moldavite on this one clay, and or polish them out sometime the finish on wheels are very sensitive to cleaners
and or haze the finish, thought if any of the suggestions solve your problem my suggestion would be to coat the wheels in a paint coating so their is less harm to them
 
I agree with james on clay, polish and seal. Also track pads do dust a lot.
 
Ok, I will try that. Thanks a lot. If I can just get most of it I will be happy. I am building it to be a street legal daily driven race car so I am not expecting perfection. I know, who would want to drive around in an uncomfortable car as their daily driver. I am a little odd that way. The Brembos will probably turn Black from the heat next season anyways, but I try to keep it as clean as possible.

Thanks again, I will try the suggestions this weekend if I get time.
 
Hey don't defend driving an x daily. It makes a great daily. I love my x when the snow comes out. Snow+AWD+Turbo=fun. I would hit those wheels with a light polish after a nice thorough clean and clay. Try it on one see what happens. And if you have problems you could always send the wheels to me ;)
 
OCD Detailing said:
I have all kinds of brushes. Got a brush addiction and always buying different ones. I used the Sonax in the photos posted and used 2 or 3 different brushes. Blew them dry with the Master Blaster. I did put the CG's wheel wax on them about a month ago.

My driving habits are random. I seem to turn into Sebstian Vettel when I hit the on ramps and off ramps. Every once in awhile I get a Mustang, M3, Vette, Porsche, etc that pick on me, but after I show them the replacement for displacement I am not really slamming on the brakes, just coasting back down to the speed limit. I do try and go to the track once a month but it's been about 6 months since I have gone and I have only had the wheels about 4 months. I am running Raybestos track pads but I would think the sonax and scrubbing or the Adam's deep wheel cleaner and scrubbing would get it. But like I said, it does wipe off once dry, just kind of a pain. They never look perfect. I have also tried quick detailer on them.

Thank for the info everybody
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"Replacement for Displacement", now that's just silly talk. Sheer nonsense. :laughing:

Try Poor Boy's Wheel sealant or a ceramic or glass coating like 22PLE, Opticoat or Gtechniq.

Nice ride by the way. :D
 
RPM94 said:
"Replacement for Displacement", now that's just silly talk. Sheer nonsense. :laughing:

Nice ride by the way. :D
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LOL Thanks

Well I don't know how else to explain why a 4 cylinder 2 liter walks away from "Big 'ol American V8 Muscle" with double the cylinders and and over double the displacement. And that is in a straight line, the thing American cars are supposed to be good at, on the track it's a beat down like no other. Im the MAN
 
Ur 2.0l still doesn't replace the sound of displacement...the experience of that V8 torque and rumble.

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I sometimes get haze too after using Sonax Full Effect w/brushes and I just remove with microfiber towel sprayed with CG V7.

I also occasionally clean wheels (beyond using Sonax) with Klasse AIO and seal with Poor Boy's Wheel Sealant.

My favorite wheel brushes are wheel woolies, speed master wheel brushes and Atlasta soft-tip brush.
 
OCD Detailing said:
LOL Thanks

Well I don't know how else to explain why a 4 cylinder 2 liter walks away from "Big 'ol American V8 Muscle" with double the cylinders and and over double the displacement. And that is in a straight line, the thing American cars are supposed to be good at, on the track it's a beat down like no other. Im the MAN
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Hmmmm.....Well if you are a true car guy then you already know that a C6 Z06 is a Track Monster (stock). Now add Pfadt headers, All Pro Heads, FAST intake, CAI, custom cam, Akrapovic Exhaust and a tune and one easily gets over 580 RWHP. I doubt I will see many beat downs (on the highway or track). :D



Another perk, as stated above is the sound of 7.0 liter (427 cc) V8. As a police officer once told me at a gas station, "Your car sounds like Satan's Chariot!" I thought that was funny, but kinda accurate.

The Akra's give it a unique sound, a bit exotic but still with that big V8 rumble.

Don't get me wrong, I am a car guy and appreciate EVOs, STIs, and I even like Vipers. :props:



Back to the subject. You should really try the 22PLE VM1 Metal Wheel coating. Any brake dust will just blow off. I use the glass coat (VX1 Pro Glass), the VMI Metal for my ADV.1 10.1SLs and the trim coating (VR1 Trim and Plastic). I wish Auto Geek would carry the 22PLE line up. :(
 
This may have nothing to do with your situation, but I'll add it anyway in case it helps someone. What you have going on looks a LOT like what one of my friends had on his car he brought me.

Long story short, when he had taken it to the dealership, they washed it for him. Part of that wash was to apply an extremely persistent tire dressing, which they sprayed on. It got on the wheels and was a BEAR to remove. As you stated, it looked okay when freshly cleaned but within a few hours it was right back.
 
Nice vette.

As far as tracking goes I think it's misleading when magazines quote times. Those drivers are usually pro drivers that can out drive a car. The average track day guy the car can out drive him. LOL So you can look at say the Nuerburgring times and say this car is faster than that car, but put the average track day guy in the cars and they can be the complete opposite. The thing with the Evo is the AWD and computer. It's so easy to drive fast. Some say it's the computer driving for you, having done it, it still takes skill but the computer does help. Two guys of close to the same skills, one in a stock evo and one in a built Vette, the evo has the advantage most of the time. No fighting the over or under steer. It's so easy to get back on the throttle way sooner than a pure rear wheel drive.

I have always been a fan of little motors that put out a lot of HP. My Evo is putting out about 282hp per liter. That just amazes me. I know that number has nothing to do with anything but it still amazes me. Plus it's more fun beating the V8's. It's a win-win. I lose, well your motor is bigger, I win and HAHA. LOL

As far as sound, I am running an electric cut out which I keep open most of the time. Basically the exhaust exits under my seat, no muffler. The whine of the turbo is amazing. It's funny seeing these Mustangs run me down on the freeway, get next to me, then back off and disappear.

Anyways, I guess we are off topic, lol but thanks again for the info on the wheels.

In the turns I can get on the bumper of super cars


RPM94 said:
Hmmmm.....Well if you are a true car guy then you already know that a C6 Z06 is a Track Monster (stock). Now add Pfadt headers, All Pro Heads, FAST intake, CAI, custom cam, Akrapovic Exhaust and a tune and one easily gets over 580 RWHP. I doubt I will see many beat downs (on the highway or track). :D



Another perk, as stated above is the sound of 7.0 liter (427 cc) V8. As a police officer once told me at a gas station, "Your car sounds like Satan's Chariot!" I thought that was funny, but kinda accurate.

The Akra's give it a unique sound, a bit exotic but still with that big V8 rumble.

Don't get me wrong, I am a car guy and appreciate EVOs, STIs, and I even like Vipers. :props:



Back to the subject. You should really try the 22PLE VM1 Metal Wheel coating. Any brake dust will just blow off. I use the glass coat (VX1 Pro Glass), the VMI Metal for my ADV.1 10.1SLs and the trim coating (VR1 Trim and Plastic). I wish Auto Geek would carry the 22PLE line up. :(
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RPM94 said:
Hmmmm.....Well if you are a true car guy then you already know that a C6 Z06 is a Track Monster (stock). Now add Pfadt headers, All Pro Heads, FAST intake, CAI, custom cam, Akrapovic Exhaust and a tune and one easily gets over 580 RWHP. I doubt I will see many beat downs (on the highway or track). :D



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Your car is stunning!! and I seriously doubt you'll see many beat downs either!

I've had the privilege of driving both a Nissan GTR and a Z06 (both incredible cars). However my preference is still the Z06 any day! BTW the owner of the GTR recently exchanged it for the new 2015 Stingray! Hmmm.

I actually laughed out loud when I read this: "Your car sounds like Satan's Chariot!". I hear ya and I love it!
 
That guy is CRAZY. LOL GTR is one of my dream cars. That and the Porsche GT3. Those GTR's are beasts. Gave a beat down to the ZR1 even though the ZR1 is lighter and more HP. And 700 to 800 hp isn't too difficult to get to in the GTR. Something America hasn't caught on to yet. The faster than lighting shifts and the fact that you can have all the HP in the world, if it isn't getting to the ground and moving the car forward, it's useless. I saw slow motion of that GTR taking off and there is no slip. And nobody can deny that it's transmission is amazing. The Evo MR has a trans like it, but I have to shift to have fun. Just seems odd to be on a track and nothing to do with your right hand, lol.

The new vettes are the first vettes I really like the look of straight off the showroom floor but I would never buy an American car. They almost made them look perfect but put skinny tires on it. Just makes no sense to me.
 
Do you have any Cleaner Waxes in your arsenal?

The chemical solvents seem to be really good at removing oxidation and road film from wheels

Klasse AIO worked to remove the haze on my "Semi-Chrome" GM wheels

Apply slightly heavier than if you were using it as an LSP. I used a MF towel to apply and remove. Moderate elbow grease
 
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