polishing new clearcote????

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hi guys just heard from the body shop that my truck will be done next week. they have to repaint just one dent on the colume that skinny piece that starts from the roof and goes down by the mirror. any way they said there going to clearcote the whole door anyway just so it blends in even know the door was fine . can i still polish this ? do i have to wait a while for the clear to dry ? if they reclear the door are they going to just spray over the paint ?
 
i told the body shop guy im very picky please do a perfect job. im nervous as hell. hope it looks flawless like it did before i had it in there. by the way what do they have to do to reclear the door? what if theres a little tiny micro swirl on the paint that i havent got yet are they going to just clear over that? and then ill never be able to polish that because its under the new clear job? any idea guys , i know nothing about body work and painting
 
trhland said:
i told the body shop guy im very picky please do a perfect job. im nervous as hell. hope it looks flawless like it did before i had it in there. by the way what do they have to do to reclear the door? what if theres a little tiny micro swirl on the paint that i havent got yet are they going to just clear over that? and then ill never be able to polish that because its under the new clear job? any idea guys , i know nothing about body work and painting
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My guess is that the clear that they shoot over the swirls will hide them.
 
Thejoyofdriving said:
My guess is that the clear that they shoot over the swirls will hide them.
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not to say theres swirls but may one or 2 light hair line marks that can only be seen in direct sun.i just hope it come out good
 
trhland said:
not to say theres swirls but may one or 2 light hair line marks that can only be seen in direct sun.i just hope it come out good
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I think that once they get filled in with clear they will disappear. I dont know that for a fact I am just hypothesizing.
 
Paint shal "breath" a month or so, so personaly i wouldnt touched it the first month, but i think someone said that you may polish it, but dont seal it. But i would wait, or if the painter says otherwise.
 
Well im pretty sure they polish the freshly painted area right after it dries. So I assume its ok to polish it. I have heard to not wax or seal fresh after market paint for 3-6 months.
 
paint from the factory is heat cured and outgased prior to sale. Because your using a body shop, you likely have not had a significant amount of time to allow this to happen. As such I suggest leaving paint alone for minimum of 30 days from any harsh chemicals or polish. A quick coat of Souveran Paste (pure carnauba) to protect from water spots is all thats needed until then.
 
killrwheels@autogeek said:
paint from the factory is heat cured and outgased prior to sale. Because your using a body shop, you likely have not had a significant amount of time to allow this to happen. As such I suggest leaving paint alone for minimum of 30 days from any harsh chemicals or polish. A quick coat of Souveran Paste (pure carnauba) to protect from water spots is all thats needed until then.
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I thought you arent suppose to wax or seal after market paint jobs right away:confused:
 
killrwheels@autogeek said:
paint from the factory is heat cured and outgased prior to sale. Because your using a body shop, you likely have not had a significant amount of time to allow this to happen. As such I suggest leaving paint alone for minimum of 30 days from any harsh chemicals or polish. A quick coat of Souveran Paste (pure carnauba) to protect from water spots is all thats needed until then.
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thanks !!!!will do
 
ill ask the body shop guy when i pick up the truck .i did hear a while ago that the bake it on so its fine to do what ever
 
Thejoyofdriving said:
I thought you arent suppose to wax or seal after market paint jobs right away:confused:
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this has been an issue since the birth of each product, and what I have been able to find out over the years.

Wax --- this substance actually covers the leafs of the carnauba tree in Brazil. Leaves take in oxygen for the plant, thus the leafs covered with this substance still breathe. They interlock when raining to provide a water protectant.

sealant -- this product interlocks together almost immediately synthetically to "seal" or block the paint from environment. As such by design, it might not allow a paint to breathe properly and outgas as locked in.

what I have found as the only agreement, the high solvents and cleaners used in most AIO type products are what can harm paint most while drying properly. So I personally have always avoided anything like this and chemical cleaners and polishes specifically.

I can tell you with 5 new roofs on Vette since new, and past minor scrape that needed repair Souveran Paste has never done anything to paint and always kept me protected during this rather small window of curing. I want some protection from etchings as such, and this is the one area where I feel more than comfortable offering its use.
 
killrwheels@autogeek said:
this has been an issue since the birth of each product, and what I have been able to find out over the years.

Wax --- this substance actually covers the leafs of the carnauba tree in Brazil. Leaves take in oxygen for the plant, thus the leafs covered with this substance still breathe. They interlock when raining to provide a water protectant.

sealant -- this product interlocks together almost immediately synthetically to "seal" or block the paint from environment. As such by design, it might not allow a paint to breathe properly and outgas as locked in.

what I have found as the only agreement, the high solvents and cleaners used in most AIO type products are what can harm paint most while drying properly. So I personally have always avoided anything like this and chemical cleaners and polishes specifically.

I can tell you with 5 new roofs on Vette since new, and past minor scrape that needed repair Souveran Paste has never done anything to paint and always kept me protected during this rather small window of curing. I want some protection from etchings as such, and this is the one area where I feel more than comfortable offering its use.
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thanks again for clearing this up.man you know your stuff. im calling a/g and demanding they give you a raise:applause:
 
just from my personal experience with the body shop that repainted the front end on my S2000, the swirl marks that were in the original clearcoat will be gone. clearcoat is self leveling to hide any blemishes in the basecoat. i had the guy wetsand the front end 2 days after it was painted to remove the imperfections, like bubbles in the clearcoat, and then watched him polish it that day. the paint still looks flawless. i recently also had a question about that on my bike as well. i repainted it, wetsanded it, but now im scared to polish it. its black and im a little timid to polish it before it has time to cure.
 
Ask yourselves this very simple question.

If one is told not to wax their car for 30 days because it needs to "out gas" the solvents then how is it that the base color of paint can be covered by a clear coat of paint and not be given 30 days to "gas out" prior to being cleared?

In other words how is a micro thin layer of wax able impede or stop paint from air curing if a layer of clear paint doesn't stop or impede the base color from curing?

All waxes sit on the top of paint. Wax is far larger on a microscopic level than paint (paint is highly crosslinked so only smaller solvents, such as water, are able to penetrate the clear) and so it can't harm the paint nor stop it from "air" curing.

Also, both factory assembly lines and after market body shops use abrasives on freshly sprayed paint. They wet sand them and they also polish them.

What I would avoid are products high in solvent content.

One of the main reasons for the "30 day" wait period is, according to one paint shop I spoke with, is that paint manufacturers have a limited warranty of their paint, likewise the body shop also. So if you go and jack your paint up after that time it's your dime to fix it. Prior to that time it should be under a warranty of some sort BUT waxing it *may* void that warranty, at least it did with this guys work.

Anthony
 
killrwheels@autogeek said:
I can tell you with 5 new roofs on Vette since new, and past minor scrape that needed repair Souveran Paste has never done anything to paint and always kept me protected during this rather small window of curing. I want some protection from etchings as such, and this is the one area where I feel more than comfortable offering its use.
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5 new roofs!!?? What have you been doing to them? :D
 
adidasvii said:
just from my personal experience with the body shop that repainted the front end on my S2000, the swirl marks that were in the original clearcoat will be gone. clearcoat is self leveling to hide any blemishes in the basecoat. i had the guy wetsand the front end 2 days after it was painted to remove the imperfections, like bubbles in the clearcoat, and then watched him polish it that day. the paint still looks flawless. i recently also had a question about that on my bike as well. i repainted it, wetsanded it, but now im scared to polish it. its black and im a little timid to polish it before it has time to cure.
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thanks for that ! i was alittle nervous about that.
 
Pauly6401 said:
5 new roofs!!?? What have you been doing to them? :D
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dont ask ... its not the flying roof syndrome, but a Natl Recall on the C6 due to material. (if you want whole story do a search in Off-topic)
 
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