Help me decide please

SeanChav

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I am just starting out in my side work detailing.... not trying to get rich or anything, just make a little extra money doing something I enjoy.... so far my first couple jobs were simple wash and waxes, and its looking like that's gonna be the vast majority of my work as I have a couple more coming up.

my dilemma is on which wax/sealant to use.... I used CG butter wax on my first 2 customers cars and I have enough left to do my next 2 jobs....the butter wax looks good but the durability is terrible.... I'm wanting something with decent durability and good looks....I know there's good stuff out there like collinite, Wolfgang etc etc but I know collinite can be finicky if not applied thinly and I don't want to worry about the cure time for Wolfgang with our on/off rain storms here.

I want something simple and easy to use with about 2-3 months durability at least....no big preference on WOWA or WOWO but if it's WOWO the easier application and wipe off the better....I was originally going to just go with Meg's ultimate liquid wax due to its OTC availability, but I thought I'd ask u guys and hear ur opinions as I'm a newB to this and have a narrow window of experience still.

thx, Sean
 
Optimum Car Wax and Optimum Opti-Seal. Both very easy to use and good durability. You do not need much of either to do a job. D156, or Ultimate Quik Wax, for those who just want a wash.

If using OCW in the heat/sun just run the hose over the panel before applying.
 
Optimum Car Wax and Optimum Opti-Seal. Both very easy to use and good durability. You do not need much of either to do a job. D156 for those who just want a wash.

If using OCW in the heat/sun just run the hose over the panel before applying.

I have d156 and love it....also have optiseal that use for door jambs and small nooks, I haven't tried it on a whole car yet though.... I've heard good stuff about OCW, how longs the durability on it?

what about a WOWO?....I know I've read that some ppl have had customers that prefer the whole "wax on wax off" instead of a simple spray sealant....I'm guessing cuz most ppl don't know the difference or think that a sealant like optiseal or OCW is short changing them
 
I just realized I have Meguiar's "Shine as you dry Quik Wax" not "Ultimate Quik Wax". I don't know if there is much difference between the two or not. Works well though. Kinda smells like lemon Pledge.
 
Opti-Seal is pretty much WOWA as long as you don't use to much, but it's hard because you can't really see it and want to apply more to know its there. And OCW is almost that way too.

OCW durability is supposed to be around 5 months I think. I usually say 3-5, or better that the average OTC paste wax.

Yeah, I'm kinda torn on the spray wax thing and people not knowing how good OCW is, but I haven't had anyone say "hey you didn't (paste) wax my car, you just sprayed something on there".

Meg's Ultimate Liquid wax should provide decent durability.
 
I may just pick up a bottle of OCW and ultimate liquid wax and try them on separate cars and see how each turns out....even though I don't "wax" my cars I still enjoy the whole process from time to time
 
Four star paint protection is a sealant ,I've used and continue to use this product and get awesome results with it.Its 30 bucks and so so easy to remove with proper claying or not it provides such a slick feel to it.For maximum results there's probably a cure time ,but I don't go by that I apply it to monthly maintenance vehicles in the blazing Florida sun,and return month after month with hydrophobic beading .Its one of the best products as far as ease of use there is no effort to remove at all no dusting no smearing or hazing,I'm a stickler when it comes to products and not afraid to tell you that a product sucks,everyone has there own opinion on products which is great and informative but I can tell you for 29 dollars with the polycharger you definetly can go wrong good luck and have fun.
 
awesome thx, I'll have to check it out.... this past month I've made a couple large orders of a couple hundred dollars each, and I thought I was set for a while but yet I find my wish list piling back up lol
 
I may just pick up a bottle of OCW and ultimate liquid wax and try them on separate cars and see how each turns out....even though I don't "wax" my cars I still enjoy the whole process from time to time

You can't beat Meg's ULW for ease of use and durability of any over the counter product!
 
Ultima Paint Guard Plus. I've seen almost 2 years on a garage kept car with a little less than average driving washed on an average of every other week. I put two coats on and all the washes were done my me so they were proper washes.
 
Sean

If you want a couple samples I can get you:

@ 6-8 oz of OCW--you can do a sedan with 1-1.5 oz

@ 4 oz of Collinite 845--a sedan only needs 1.5 oz

I live in Snotsdale, not far from you. You just need to meet me half way such as mesa / tempe / chandler. I was just in San tan valley last Friday. And don't worry, I have plenty of these.

contact me at sfft77 at cox dot net
 
Ultima Paint Guard Plus. I've seen almost 2 years on a garage kept car with a little less than average driving washed on an average of every other week. I put two coats on and all the washes were done my me so they were proper washes.

I already have optiseal, which seems very similar but thx anyways

Here's a really good Sealant:

Finish Kare 1000P Hi-Temp Paste Wax, high melt polymer car wax, Finish care auto wax

~$18.00 for a 15oz. tub...
{that's pert near a life-time supply! :dblthumb2:}



Bob

thx Bob, I will look into that for my "wax on wax off" treatment wax
 
Sean

If you want a couple samples I can get you:

@ 6-8 oz of OCW--you can do a sedan with 1-1.5 oz

@ 4 oz of Collinite 845--a sedan only needs 1.5 oz

I live in Snotsdale, not far from you. You just need to meet me half way such as mesa / tempe / chandler. I was just in San tan valley last Friday. And don't worry, I have plenty of these.

contact me at sfft77 at cox dot net

Awesome!!!.... I'm sending a email to u now
 
Check your PM.
That email was a miss-type (how embarrassing)

should be sfft77 at mail dot com

I must have gone to too many Grateful Dead shows in my youth....
 
Check your PM.
That email was a miss-type (how embarrassing)

should be sfft77 at mail dot com

I must have gone to too many Grateful Dead shows in my youth....

hahaha new email sent!! :xyxthumbs:
 
Sean

If you want a couple samples I can get you:

@ 6-8 oz of OCW--you can do a sedan with 1-1.5 oz

@ 4 oz of Collinite 845--a sedan only needs 1.5 oz

I live in Snotsdale, not far from you. You just need to meet me half way such as mesa / tempe / chandler. I was just in San tan valley last Friday. And don't worry, I have plenty of these.

contact me at sfft77 at cox dot net

If you're using that much 845 on a sedan you're using way too much product in my mind.
 
Well tell me more.

I was guestimating. I do sedan paint, windows, and wheels on my DD.

The last few times I used 845 I put 1.5 oz in a bottle, then added about 20% DG 601 bonding agent. Mix it all up and apply. I always have some left over, slightly less than an ounce but i don't want to run short. So I figure I use about 1.25 oz. Its hard to measure whats left because it doesn't settle right away in the bottle. I toss the un-used remains.

Several people have recommended the DG 601 bonding agent. Even DG told me it *should aid* the 845. I have no way of really knowing as I always reapply after 5-6 months anyway.

I don't use much 845 anymore. I have been using 476. Seems like that tin will last forever. I've done 2 cars and it looks like it is still full.
 
If you liquify the 845...Lets just put it this way...

I did the entire hull (bottom and sides) as well as the topside of a 27'Baha Cruiser (dwarfs a F350 dually truck) boat by opening a new bottle of Collinite 845 and I used barely over a cap full which I just measured out for those reading...a cap is right at 1/4 of an ounce. So I used a frog hair over a 1/4 an ounce on that huge boat.

Here was my regimine:

Liquefy the 845. With the waxing/sealant pad on my dual action polisher I unscrewed the cap of the 845. I then placed the bottle underneath the pad with the opening touching the pad, then I turned the whole thing upside down and then back right side up so the bottle was again upright and beneath the pad. I turned the bottle over like that about 5 times in different places to prime the pad. Every now and then (when required by checking the pad on glass to see if product was still in the pad) I'd place the bottle back under the pad and turn everything upside down then right side up real quick. I marked the bottle before I started and I used a 5.5" waxing pad on speed 2-3 (prefered speed 2 and caused less heat, thus the product didn't tend to dry because of pad heat) on my G110v2. This allows for super thin application...almost imperceptible if you want it to be. Your mileage may vary depending on how you actually physically look at how much product is being applied.

When they said to apply Collinite super thin on this forum...I took it to heart. Removal was a breeze even doing one entire side of the boat before removal.
 
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