Optimum opti-coat 2 REALLY permanent?

I don't know how long it last, I've yet to try it but will soon.
I'd be one happy camper if I get it to last a full two years.
But I've read it last much longer, I shall see :)
 
No its not permanent, nothing is. Think about it, could you come back a thousand or a million years from now and it would still be holding up? Of course not.
 
KneeDragr said:
No its not permanent, nothing is. Think about it, could you come back a thousand or a million years from now and it would still be holding up? Of course not.
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Wouldn't:
The Four Horsemen of The Apocalypse already have taken care of any 'Coatings', (and a whole lot more)...by then?!?!

:dunno:

Bob
 
Rocks aren't even permanent but the product is far from a scam or snake oil. If you want the longest lasting coating to date this is it.....period.
 
Here is my take on coating life/durability...

Regardless of the claims made by the manufacturer of being 'permanent' or not, these coatings will be MUCH more durable than a traditional form of protection (when applied to a properly prepped surface).

In all reality, no matter how careful you are with your vehicle, it will need to be polished every couple of years (speaking generally for daily drivers). For this reason, I do not care if a coating can last 10 years or not - there is no way I will be going more than 2 years without polishing my car at which point the coating will either be fully removed, or at least greatly diminished and will need to be coated again.

Before someone chimes in and says "well I'd rather just apply a sealant every 4-6 months instead of waste so much money on a coating that I will have to reapply eventually anyways" you need to understand a couple more things.

1) A tube of opti-coat is 20cc (many other coatings are sold in 20cc-50cc bottles)... a car the size of a Honda civic will use maybe 4-6cc's of the coating when applied properly. You may use "too much" on your first time since you won't have your process fully figured out yet.

2) You can coat 4+ average vehicles with one tube of OC2.0 which equates to about $20/vehicle which, while still more expensive than a sealant, is WAY worth it for the added protection and ease of maintenance.

3) These coatings are harder than the traditional clear coat will be (varies depending on vehicle type and color) and therefore offer a level of resistance to light swirls and marring... something no traditional form of protection can claim.

4) The protection is just far superior than any sealant or wax. Last year I coated 1/2 of my trunk and treated the other 1/2 with a traditional sealant. It took the un-coated side less than 1 day after a rain storm to have light etchings from water spots that needed to be polished, while the coating (22ple VX1 Pro in this scenario) was just fine. Keep in mind that these coatings are far from bulletproof... I did leave water spots on my car for a couple of weeks just to "see what happened" and yeah - they sure as heck etched the coating lol so proper maintenance is still required!

I could throw up many other reasons these coatings are "worth it", but I think you're getting the idea... and I'm supposed to be working right now :dblthumb2:




erichaley said:
Anything that can be polished off, is not, IMO, permanent. ....
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Look at it from another point of view... are swirls permanent? IMO - yes... if swirls are left uncorrected, they surely aren't going to disappear on their own. They can be polished and removed, but only by physically removing the entire layer of paint in which they reside.
 
Opti coat is well worth the money, on sale right now too!
 
FUNX725 said:
Wouldn't:
The Four Horsemen of The Apocalypse already have taken care of any 'Coatings', (and a whole lot more)...by then?!?!

:dunno:

Bob
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I dont know but the OP seemed to be taking an extreme literal approach to the word 'permanent', so I was addressing the issue in that manner.

For me, anything that requires enough mechanical abrasion to remove the coating as it does to remove the actual paint it protects is 'permanent'.
 
VP Mark said:
Correct. Technically they are ceramic clear coatings.

^^^:props:^^^
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Chris@Optimum said:
Opti coat is a permanent coating, not a nano sealant, so there really is no reason to compare the two...they are very different.
Here is a brief decription of Opti Coat from it's creator, Dr. David Ghodoussi:

"Opti-Coat is not a nano particle, it is rather a pre-polymer that cross links and forms a continuous film on the surfaces it is applied to similar to a single component isocyanate that forms a clear coat finish. Opti-Coat also reacts with the substrate that it is applied to so it will not delaminate. Nano particles are sub micron particles that are created by controlled reactions or by breaking down larger particles. They do not react or form bonds. The application of Opti-Coat takes less than 10 minutes for a full size car, if it is done correctly. It applies just like Opti-Seal, however, if there is over application, you have to remove the excess within the first 10 minutes (just leveling with the applicator-CT). Otherwise, once it cures, you have to buff off the excess (machine polishing-CT). Most people apply this product to one panel at a time and check for any unevenness before moving to the next section. As far as the durability, it is similar to urethane clears. It will not wash away or break down, however, you can polish it over time ! The hardness will increase over time to as it is exposed to heat.

Opti-Coat is based on a resin pre-polymer that we manufacture and once it is applied, it cross links and reacts with urethane and other clear coat paints. Opti-Coat has better chemical resistance, scratch & mar resistance, and release properties than any automotive coating in use.


This coating like a regular clear coat lasts indefinitely unless it is removed by polishing, sanding, or paint removers.

^^^ See below...NOTE: RE:^^^

The solvents used in Opti-Coat are also used in hand lotions and other cosmetic products. The polymers, however, are very reactive and should be used with caution and that is one of the reasons we have only offered it to professional detailers till now.-Doctor G"
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Chris@Optimum said:
Dr. David Ghodoussi: (excerpted from above quote)

"This coating like a regular clear coat lasts indefinitely unless it is removed by polishing, sanding, or paint removers".
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RE: I may have to post-up the "half-life" AGO thread...


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Bob
 
Mine, 4.5 years on my Civic.

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And some water beading shots...

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Well there's seems to be no for sure answer, but 4.5 years is a long... time^

Looks really good ZeroSP :xyxthumbs:

Art
 
It's life time is down to the care and what it's being applied to.

If the car is constantly being run through automated car washes (even touchless washes) with 12pH soaks, it will wear off fast. Paint will wear off fast.

A race car I sponsor put OC on his rims. Considering the brakes always catch fire, the coating wore off in one season.

If the car is garaged/pleasure driven, well kept or in a non harsh environment, the coating will last an extremely long time!

On the market, Modesta is the most durable, but it's application is extremely difficult and needs heat lamps to cure.
 
Andr3wilson said:
It's life time is down to the care and what it's being applied to.

If the car is constantly being run through automated car washes (even touchless washes) with 12pH soaks, it will wear off fast. Paint will wear off fast.

A race car I sponsor put OC on his rims. Considering the brakes always catch fire, the coating wore off in one season.

If the car is garaged/pleasure driven, well kept or in a non harsh environment, the coating will last an extremely long time!

On the market, Modesta is the most durable, but it's application is extremely difficult and needs heat lamps to cure.
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Any data/testing to back that up with, or is this just your opinion?

FWIW I have Modesta sitting on my shelf with no real desire to try it...
 
hernandez.art13 said:
Just wonder why?
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Few reasons I guess...I also have C1, EXOv2, and a bete ArtDeshine coating sitting on the shelf. (FYI, C1 was updated from the version I tried a few years ago)

I've had Opti-Coat Pro on my car since May 2012 and I don't really want to go through the hassle of removing it just to test a product, nor do I really have the time. My wifes car has been wearing QCF since she bought it last spring, same applies for her car. So with no cars of my own to apply it too (I won't test on clients cars) my test pans are the only real option. Since both Modesta and EXOv2 will go bad shortly after opening, I haven't been very motivated to use them as it seem like a waste of product.
 
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