Head-to-Head cage match - Klasse SG vs. Collinite 845

Being a fan of both products, using Klasse longer (since 2005) and Collinite for less than a year, I can speak to this. KSG would compare better to Collinite #915 as its all about shine AND protection, KSG is all about shine AND protection as well. KSG needs that 2nd coat though, not because of it needing the unfair advantage but rather because its sooo noticeable when you apply the 2nd coat. If this is done just apply a 2nd coat to Collinite as well.

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rouxster said:
What pad do you use for the KAIO and the 845?
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Do you mean the SG since it was the LSP like the 845? To cover all bases, here is how I did this.

- KAIO was applied with mild polishing pad on a speed of 4. KSG was applied by hand with a microfiber pad.

- 845 was applied with a black finishing pad on a speed of 3.
 
Thanks. Sorry, I meant with a DA polisher for the KAIO and the 845, so you answered my question.
 
Klasse Act said:
Being a fan of both products, using Klasse longer (since 2005) and Collinite for less than a year, I can speak to this. KSG would compare better to Collinite #915 as its all about shine AND protection, KSG is all about shine AND protection as well. KSG needs that 2nd coat though, not because of it needing the unfair advantage but rather because its sooo noticeable when you apply the 2nd coat. If this is done just apply a 2nd coat to Collinite as well.

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This was my maiden voyage with the 845 and to keep things like-for-like in this test, I kept to a single coat of each. In the past, I could go all winter on a single coat of KSG.

While not part of this test, I did double coat my wife's SUV with SG for the first time. Her car gets exposed to worse conditions and gets more touchless washes in the winter. I wanted to be sure that vehicle was well protected. To be honest, on that dark crimson vehicle, I didn't notice any significant change in shine...it looked good, but not measurably better than the first coat.

Unless the 845 totally bombs this endrance test, I actually see myself keeping both around and just double coat for the winter. The Mazda is a lighter color with large ammounts of large metal flake which looks amazing under Klasse products. I really like the look of the 845 on the darker colors. It's less mirror-like reflective and seems to provide better depth. The 845 and BH combo on the GTI almost makes it appear to be drawing in all light, like, ummm...an oily black hole since the pearl/metalic content is low and the particals are tiny.
 
Love that VW BTW, especially the wheels!

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We got some rain today, so I thought I provide another pictorial update.

The Klasse (on a slightly dirty roof) results.

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The Collinite 845 results (after driving the vehicle in the rain)

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Both are still looking good and going strong after at least one touchless wash and going through two snow storms and now rain.

Its interesting how driving in a light rain you can actually have a dry car due to the water beads flying off the surface.
 
I've got 845 over the Klasse twins. I finally got a chance to do a rinseless wash today and the 845 was still popping. I topped with Duragloss AW and it looks great. This was mainly for protection because it is pouring rain in NE Ohio this weekend. AIO then 3 coats of SG followed by two coats of 845 in late October.
 
You can't go wrong with 845. It's been my winter wax for a couple years now. It really protects well and a little goes a long way.
 
tommygee said:
I've got 845 over the Klasse twins. I finally got a chance to do a rinseless wash today and the 845 was still popping. I topped with Duragloss AW and it looks great. This was mainly for protection because it is pouring rain in NE Ohio this weekend. AIO then 3 coats of SG followed by two coats of 845 in late October.
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Now that's a well protected car, I like that:props:
 
Desertnate said:
We got some rain today, so I thought I provide another pictorial update.

The Klasse (on a slightly dirty roof) results.

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The Collinite 845 results (after driving the vehicle in the rain)

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Both are still looking good and going strong after at least one touchless wash and going through two snow storms and now rain.

Its interesting how driving in a light rain you can actually have a dry car due to the water beads flying off the surface.
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The beading is ofcoarse going to look different on a car that's sitting and one that's been driven in the rain for sure but your right, with these two products the car will tend to dry pretty easily. Maybe you can take some pics of the car when its clean and sitting in the rain to see how it looks/
 
Klasse Act said:
The beading is ofcoarse going to look different on a car that's sitting and one that's been driven in the rain for sure but your right, with these two products the car will tend to dry pretty easily. Maybe you can take some pics of the car when its clean and sitting in the rain to see how it looks/
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The beading looked almost the same except for the fact the beads were larger. The temps were below freezing when I took these pics and both were at home at the same time so I took advantage of the opportunity to show that both products were still on station and performing well.
 
Yeah, after doing a rinseless wash applying some AG will keep the car looking great, even if you do this once a month!

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I use both. Klasse seems to last longer to me IMO. 845 looks plain awesome. Over time Klasse slickness will out do the 845.

If your looking for something even better, Wolfs Hardbody! Cheap, easy to apply by hand. Slickness & beading for almost a year. And resists bird poo better than any wax or sealant ive tried.
 
How's the battle going between the 2 heavy weights?

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Thanks for asking.

Due to my work hours and the short winter days, I haven't had enough day light to take any good pictures.

I can tell you that after a torrential rain we had last Friday, the beading on both cars looks exactly same as it appeared in the pictures in December. The Klasse car has sat outside through that massive winter storm that hit the mid-west last week and the Collinite car was on the roads during that time and has gone through it's third touchless wash.

From what I can observe, both products are still going strong.
 
Touchless washes get a bad rep here but in my experience with them I haven't had an issue with them, plus they keep the car clean underneather, so a good touch-free every couple weeks should be a part of vehicle maintenance during the winter where it snows and the roads are salted, it gets soap, water and air drying into areas you can't possibly get to.

This might end up a draw!
 
I have the Klasse twins with KAIO and an additional 2 coats of SG on my wife's car and since they are acrylic in nature I use Chemical Guys Extreme Synthetic Acrylic Detailer spray as a touch up after each wash. So far it's holding up nicely. You just don't see acrylics only used very often so I thought I'd give it a go. I could see putting 845 over it and using DG Aquawax too. I can't say enough about AW. I love that product.

On my driver i have Optimum Poli-Seal which I follow up with Optimum Spray Wax for touch ups. It's been 2 years since I put the Poli-Seal on with the Spray Wax it's like I did it yesterday.

My sister-in-law has DP Coating, brother-in-law has Pinnacle diamond coating. My father has WGDGS 3.0 They're all holding up great. I've come to the conclusion that you just need to put something on them and touch them up with something compatible which is usually UltimaWWplus because it's cheap and works great. I'd like to try Garry Deans Ultimate Detailer but need to use up gallons upon gallons of product first. I got carried away during the sales. Enjoyed this thread tremendously. Nice job Nate!
 
Klasse Act said:
Touchless washes get a bad rep here but in my experience with them I haven't had an issue with them, plus they keep the car clean underneather, so a good touch-free every couple weeks should be a part of vehicle maintenance during the winter where it snows and the roads are salted, it gets soap, water and air drying into areas you can't possibly get to.

This might end up a draw!
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I only have two complaints with touchless washes
1. The detergents are harsh and shorten the lifespan of any protectant on the car
2. They never get the car as clean as I like.

However, I like them/put up with them for the very reasons you give. In the winter my choices in keeping the car clean are either a touchless or frostbite in a coin op self-serve bay. The touchless doesn't seem so bad in the end!
 
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