is there salt removal chemical for winter cleaning?

I do the touch-less when its open. Its been so cold here in the burgh that my local wash has been closed.

I also try and rinse the van when wife brings it home just to get the salt off so I don`t hear her complain about getting it on her clothes :)

I also have the underwasher i use to rinse the undercarriage when weather permits.

When its in the single digits I just suck it up :(
 
SameGuy said:
I find some of the statements above puzzling, to say the least. I've lived in the frozen north all my life and have never, ever had any issues cleaning "salt" off a car's paint with just plain old water. Sure, there's car wash shampoo in that water but that's for its surfactant and lubricant properties. There is no need for any kind of acids or harsh phosphates to "dissolve" salt on exterior paint.
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Hi SameGuy. Sorry this has confused you. Without force or agitation, water alone will not release salt off a vehicle. Even a properly protected one, mine has base coats of Colli 845 and D156 after every wash.

We are talking about cleaning inside a garage, not at a car wash or using a power washer.
 
Just use water. No need for chemicals to remove salt lol.
 
SameGuy said:
I find some of the statements above puzzling, to say the least. I've lived in the frozen north all my life and have never, ever had any issues cleaning "salt" off a car's paint with just plain old water. Sure, there's car wash shampoo in that water but that's for its surfactant and lubricant properties. There is no need for any kind of acids or harsh phosphates to "dissolve" salt on exterior paint.
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Theres more than one way to skin a cat. Some take the smart way...some choose the hard way. Dont knock it till you try it. Thats all.
 
They are saying the Whips stuff is great for salt removal from carpet. I am thinking about giving it a go for interiors.
 
i don't have a problem washing road treatment chems off when i'm doing any sort of actual wash...but RINSING is something i do often in the winter, rinse and blow...and chems don't come off with just rinsing. and i use temperature controlled water to boot. and it stinks because everything is coated so it comes up pretty clean otherwise - it's just those mid/lower areas that will still have that gray/white haze.

i am going to look into this stuff for that purpose. i'd like to mist something on that will break it up a bit and see if that will allow it to come off with by solely rinsing.
 
Your best bet for salt removal is going to be DHMO. Careful though, it can be dangerous if not used correctly. ;)
 
Sicktred08fsi said:
Theres more than one way to skin a cat. Some take the smart way...some choose the hard way. Dont knock it till you try it. Thats all.
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Huh? Smart way? Hard way? Still confused. Adding unneeded chemicals to water to do something that water and shampoo do just fine is not exactly smarter, though it is an extra step, an extra expense, and an extra burden on the environment.

One more time, if water works just fine to remove winter dirt, how exactly am I working dumber or harder? You mean to tell me that using a magic chemical, or phosphates, or acids in winter means you don't have to use a mitt or sponge or pad to wash your car? I use D114 now, ONR before that. I pre-soak with a small pump sprayer with 1:32 and then do a RW with 1:128, with absolutely zero issue getting "salt" off the body. Any grime that is troublesome would be the same grime that is troublesome in summer -- brake dust, bug guts, oil or tar -- requiring a dedicated cleaner for the spot task. "Salt" is no more troublesome to remove from paint with normal car wash solutions than any other normal dirt or dust. Anybody trying to convince you otherwise is selling something.
 
SameGuy said:
Huh? Smart way? Hard way? Still confused. Adding unneeded chemicals to water to do something that water and shampoo do just fine is not exactly smarter, though it is an extra step, an extra expense, and an extra burden on the environment.

One more time, if water works just fine to remove winter dirt, how exactly am I working dumber or harder? You mean to tell me that using a magic chemical, or phosphates, or acids in winter means you don't have to use a mitt or sponge or pad to wash your car? I use D114 now, ONR before that. I pre-soak with a small pump sprayer with 1:32 and then do a RW with 1:128, with absolutely zero issue getting "salt" off the body. Any grime that is troublesome would be the same grime that is troublesome in summer -- brake dust, bug guts, oil or tar -- requiring a dedicated cleaner for the spot task. "Salt" is no more troublesome to remove from paint with normal car wash solutions than any other normal dirt or dust. Anybody trying to convince you otherwise is selling something.
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If water works for you, that's fantastic. Does nothing to salt/grime on my vehicles. Again, without pressure or agitation. Tried ONR and UWW+ in garden sprayer, nothing. Again, not touching.

We are looking for something that emulsifies salt/grime without touching...spray on, grime falls off. No car wash, no high pressure. So far, Whip's Salt Remover and TSP/Stoner PS-1 mix are the only things I have found to do this.

Perhaps in your area they use something different on the roads. I think they add a little concrete in the mix they put on our roads!
 
For the record, my name is not Walter White. You won't catch me adding phosphates to soaps in hopes of not needing a wash bucket.
 
Foam cannon (just for the fun of it), rinse and then 2BM with Meg's Hyper Wash with a splash of ONR.

When it's single digits, cannot do that or pressure wash and no desire to go to a car wash.

So I'm left to ONR it in the garage (heated). Just need a way to knock the heavy crap off first.
 
As do I, and I explained what I do a few posts up. I'm sure a lot of folks do it as well. FWIW, when my garage floor was in better shape a few years ago (pyrite in the substrate finally activated a while back and the slab is cracked and buckled), I would do a normal mid-winter 2BM wash with a sheet rinse. Never had an issue with that, ever. Now the water pools towards the walls instead of the drain so I've had to switch to RW indoors.
 
washing is fine but i want something for in-between, when i'm doing the plain old rinses i was talking about. i know the site promotes it as an added safety measure in terms of protection against marring and such with rinseless, etc. but i'm not particularly concerned about that.

i am just not able to constantly do washes, rinseless or otherwise, because these savages around here will not relent with the road chemicals even when it's DEFINITELY not needed. so i'd wash it and it would be dirty again the next day. i'd be doing one every night. the rinse/blow thing works pretty well since it's a minimal time investment to at least keep it looking good for a day or so, esp. when it rains i don't even have to blow it dry. but that damn salt haze....

i just ordered a gallon so i'll see if this makes that process even easier.
 
And that is what the chemical is all about. You can literally soak the sides with it, let dwell, and rinse off a lot of the stuck on crud. It is also a great tool for waterless/rinseless washing. The only reason I pull my hose out in my garage here is if a car comes in and has snow build up around wheel wells.

I use it myself for in between quick rinses and as an aide when rinseless washing. It makes everything come off a lot easier.

But ill just leave and allow the experts who knock stuff without trying to say whats right.
 
Oh brother, yeah, I guess I'm not supposed to have an opinion based on my own experience. Gimme a break. :rolleyes:
 
SameGuy said:
They must use magic salt in PA.
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Note: Not very familiar with PA's salt...

However:
9 outta the past 10 of my Dr.s (I call them Cure-ators)
have told me that my gritty-passion for Morton Salt (Girlz)
is probably based on some primal urge.

I always tell them: It's for da feelz! :xyxthumbs:




Bob
 
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