Klasse Act
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Re: NEX FLEX Cordless Polishers!
How about doing paint corrections?
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How about doing paint corrections?
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NEW FLEX Cordless Polishers debuted at SEMA!
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Mike Phillips
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Well - end of day 1
If you watched the video - you heard me say,
“The announcement of these three new cordless tools will be the BIGGEST announcement in the car detailing world at SEMA”
Now that day 1 is over - am I right? Or am I wrong?
What trumps cordless polishers from FLEX?
Well - end of day 1
If you watched the video - you heard me say,
“The announcement of these three new cordless tools will be the BIGGEST announcement in the car detailing world at SEMA”
Now that day 1 is over - am I right? Or am I wrong?
What trumps cordless polishers from FLEX?
Klasse Act
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Hmmmm, stay "tuned" I guess
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Hmmmm, stay "tuned" I guess
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kkritsilas
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Re: NEX FLEX Cordless Polishers!
A replacement for the XC 3401 that addresses all the niggling issues that people have been complaining about for years? Either corded or cordless. Just a guess.
Well - end of day 1
If you watched the video - you heard me say,
“The announcement of these three new cordless tools will be the BIGGEST announcement in the car detailing world at SEMA”
Now that day 1 is over - am I right? Or am I wrong?
What trumps cordless polishers from FLEX?
A replacement for the XC 3401 that addresses all the niggling issues that people have been complaining about for years? Either corded or cordless. Just a guess.
mc2hill
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Excellent example Joe! I see these more a niche tool (like the Rupes Nano) vs. a use all the time tool. Perfect for busting out for quick touch-up, or as you say, doing a 'teaser' section, but not for using for a full correction.
Excellent example Joe! I see these more a niche tool (like the Rupes Nano) vs. a use all the time tool. Perfect for busting out for quick touch-up, or as you say, doing a 'teaser' section, but not for using for a full correction.
Deviant Detail
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Is there a soft rubber bumper that comes with the tool to cover the battery pack to help prevent accidental damage of the battery pack upon hitting or touching a vehicle's surface or is this as an accessory? Thanks.
Is there a soft rubber bumper that comes with the tool to cover the battery pack to help prevent accidental damage of the battery pack upon hitting or touching a vehicle's surface or is this as an accessory? Thanks.
Re: NEX FLEX Cordless Polishers!
It will probably last a while in the beginning then drop off. I could see why mobile guys might want thins but I dont think anyone with a garage would bother. I know I wouldn't. Its not like having a cord is some major inconvenience and you dont have to deal with batteries dying. The corded tool will always have more power over the long hual. Maybe Im wrong but I dont see a lot of people biting on these.
It will probably last a while in the beginning then drop off. I could see why mobile guys might want thins but I dont think anyone with a garage would bother. I know I wouldn't. Its not like having a cord is some major inconvenience and you dont have to deal with batteries dying. The corded tool will always have more power over the long hual. Maybe Im wrong but I dont see a lot of people biting on these.
Re: NEX FLEX Cordless Polishers!
Most lithium battery powered tools maintain perfomance and then just die
Most lithium battery powered tools maintain perfomance and then just die
theamcguy
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I think that is why the battery is rotated 90° from normal. This gets the battery up out of the way and less chance to hit the vehicle
theamcguy
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Right that is built into the tool. Lithium batteries will maintain their minimum rated voltage in this case 18V all throughout the charge. At max charge the voltage will be around 20V then it will drop to18V and will maintain that charge until the battery gets to around 80-90% discharged. When it drops below 18V the circuitry in the tool shuts it off. It does this to prevent damage to the battery. LithIon batteries last the longest if it is charged before complete discharge. Also a LithIon battery will maintain at least an 80% charge for 3 years on the shelf.
Right that is built into the tool. Lithium batteries will maintain their minimum rated voltage in this case 18V all throughout the charge. At max charge the voltage will be around 20V then it will drop to18V and will maintain that charge until the battery gets to around 80-90% discharged. When it drops below 18V the circuitry in the tool shuts it off. It does this to prevent damage to the battery. LithIon batteries last the longest if it is charged before complete discharge. Also a LithIon battery will maintain at least an 80% charge for 3 years on the shelf.
Mike Phillips
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***Update***
The FIRST car detailing class in the United States where people were able to get their hands on these two new tools was my roadshow class in Colorado the weekend of November 11th and 12th.
Pictures - Colorado Roadshow Detailing Class with Mike Phillips
I'm hoping to have some casual classes in December where I will have these tools available for people to test out.
Also - I'm teaching a class for the IDA at MTE where I'll be going over tools, the history of tools, where were at currently and the future.
2018 Class Schedule for Mobile Tech Expo - Friday, January 26th in Orlando, Florida
See #5 in the list.
***Update***
The FIRST car detailing class in the United States where people were able to get their hands on these two new tools was my roadshow class in Colorado the weekend of November 11th and 12th.
Pictures - Colorado Roadshow Detailing Class with Mike Phillips
I'm hoping to have some casual classes in December where I will have these tools available for people to test out.
Also - I'm teaching a class for the IDA at MTE where I'll be going over tools, the history of tools, where were at currently and the future.
2018 Class Schedule for Mobile Tech Expo - Friday, January 26th in Orlando, Florida
See #5 in the list.
AZpolisher15
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Where I can see this tool really shining is with finishing polishes and application of waxes/sealants. How nice to be able to set down the corded tool after a grueling 4-6 hour compounding session and finish up without a cord for the last hour.
Where I can see this tool really shining is with finishing polishes and application of waxes/sealants. How nice to be able to set down the corded tool after a grueling 4-6 hour compounding session and finish up without a cord for the last hour.
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JWilliams.RadiantDetail
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I don't hate when batteries die, to me that a sign from God I should take a beer break. So when I buy this polisher, if I do a correction that takes 7 hours *tries to do the math*
40 minutes battery life
60 minutes in an hour x 7 hours
420 minutes divided by 40
Hay on a 7 hour correction I could have 10.5 IPA's. Now I don't know how well I could polish after even 4 IPA's, but it sounds like a pretty good day to me lol.
I don't hate when batteries die, to me that a sign from God I should take a beer break. So when I buy this polisher, if I do a correction that takes 7 hours *tries to do the math*
40 minutes battery life
60 minutes in an hour x 7 hours
420 minutes divided by 40
Hay on a 7 hour correction I could have 10.5 IPA's. Now I don't know how well I could polish after even 4 IPA's, but it sounds like a pretty good day to me lol.
Markymapo1
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Looks handy for use on my Cobalt boat when a plug is not available. Time to buy one.
Looks handy for use on my Cobalt boat when a plug is not available. Time to buy one.
DaveT435
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I'm not sure I like people saying it's going to shine with finishing polishes and waxes. I'm definitely not going to be happy if I just bought a 550.00 wax spreader because that's all it has power to do. My understanding was that these machines had approximately the same amount of power as the corded versions.
I sold my XFE-7 15 mm when I got the battery version. Rotary is going to be here in a few days. I think I'll hold on to my PE-14 until I'm able to find out how much power the battery version has.
They are really nice machines, but if they aren't direct replacements for the corded versions...
I'm not sure I like people saying it's going to shine with finishing polishes and waxes. I'm definitely not going to be happy if I just bought a 550.00 wax spreader because that's all it has power to do. My understanding was that these machines had approximately the same amount of power as the corded versions.
I sold my XFE-7 15 mm when I got the battery version. Rotary is going to be here in a few days. I think I'll hold on to my PE-14 until I'm able to find out how much power the battery version has.
They are really nice machines, but if they aren't direct replacements for the corded versions...
Re: NEW FLEX Cordless Polishers!
Hopefully Im not veering too far off of the original intent of this post.
It seems you have experience with the corded version, but according to this review the corded version is basically a wax spreader itself:
FLEX XFE 7-15 REVIEW - YouTube
Even with updates in the video comments as recent as a week ago, the reviewer seems to indicate that it is insufficient for cutting compared to Rupes and other brands. I haven't used the XFE-7 15 corded or cordless, but in searching online it seems that some other reviews agree with the CarCraft Review. In my opinion that is disappointing if its true.
Hopefully Im not veering too far off of the original intent of this post.
It seems you have experience with the corded version, but according to this review the corded version is basically a wax spreader itself:
FLEX XFE 7-15 REVIEW - YouTube
Even with updates in the video comments as recent as a week ago, the reviewer seems to indicate that it is insufficient for cutting compared to Rupes and other brands. I haven't used the XFE-7 15 corded or cordless, but in searching online it seems that some other reviews agree with the CarCraft Review. In my opinion that is disappointing if its true.
Audi Rick
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I have one of the Flex cordless polishers. So far used to apply AIO's and sealants. Pretty much have to run it on speed 6 or close to it or the weight of it will stop it from spinning. I bought it because I do a lot of work under the car port this time of year and it's 50ft away from any power. I figured it would be good for spot corrections and applying wax or sealants. Not sure it will have the power for any serious correction. I switched to the smaller 5" backing plate and seemed to struggle with a 5.5" micro fiber polishing pad applying Duragloss 501, you could see a difference in speed going back to a foam pad applying Duragloss 601/111 to finish up. Haven't used it enough to give it a thumbs up or down.
So far I've done the roof/hood of a CRV with 3 steps...AIO then 601 then 111 and a F150 roof, again 3 steps with polisher and battery is on half.
I have one of the Flex cordless polishers. So far used to apply AIO's and sealants. Pretty much have to run it on speed 6 or close to it or the weight of it will stop it from spinning. I bought it because I do a lot of work under the car port this time of year and it's 50ft away from any power. I figured it would be good for spot corrections and applying wax or sealants. Not sure it will have the power for any serious correction. I switched to the smaller 5" backing plate and seemed to struggle with a 5.5" micro fiber polishing pad applying Duragloss 501, you could see a difference in speed going back to a foam pad applying Duragloss 601/111 to finish up. Haven't used it enough to give it a thumbs up or down.
So far I've done the roof/hood of a CRV with 3 steps...AIO then 601 then 111 and a F150 roof, again 3 steps with polisher and battery is on half.