Building managment banned washing cars

[fightnews]

Lol at this guy, above, gotta love Internet arm chair lawyers...

If you care that much get an attorney and get it sorted out... I've been down this path a plethora of times dealing with HOAs

Why would I? I never agreed to something so ridiculous. I don't need an attorney. What do you do just accept every bad thing that happens to you? Don't want to make any waves right?

If you sign a contract that says you can't wash your car to most normal people that means you can't wash your car with a hose. It doesn't mean you can't even buff a little dust of with a quick detailer.

 

[fightnews]

Why didn't you include the right to breathe in there? It's very simple. They can't make rules that violate the law. They can't make rules that create a dangerous situation. Other than that, they can make all types of rules which the residents agree to when they move in. If the rules were so outlandish, as you suggest, people wouldn't live there and the rules would be amended to make them more amenable to prospective tenants. Your right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness does not circumvent a written contract that you willfully entered into, no matter how RIDICULOUS you find the rule. Period.

People dont Always read the fine print. Contracts are broken and changed all the time. They are worthless prices of paper for the most part. Why do you think that is? Becuase people put things in there that legally they dont have the right to. They try to commit you to things that they legally don't have the right to.

 

[sudsmobile]

The rules likely read something like "No vehicle maintenance is to be performed on the property." It probably includes some language about what is considered maintaining your vehicle. Because vehicle maintenance is rather vague, it can encompass just about anything they'd like it to.

If you'd like I can direct you to a few websites that can cover basic contract law for you. Yes, contracts are broken all the time. That's what court is for. And, yes, a contract can be changed at the behest of either party but a new contract would have to be entered into by both parties. Breaking and changing a contract by one party only is what is referred to as breach of contract is generally renders a two party contract null and void.

 

[Route246]

I respectfully submit you don’t understand 'small town' (condo Assoc included) politics and personalities.

99% of the time, condo people are bored busybodies who just love to apply their limited 'power' and throw their weight around.

It doesn't just happen in a small town. The politicians in associations are often the lowest form of human life. These are people who have no life, have no respect and are just out to flagellate their own diminished egos. They are totally divorced from the terms, "reasonable" and "practical."

 

[WindyCity]

Condo association bylaws are enforceable. Most of them ban vehicle maintenance, commercial vehicles, trucks or vans with ladder racks or lettering, boat and trailer parking etc

Some ban parking regular pickups and leaving garbage cans out and anything else under the sun that someone finds distracting or an eyesore





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[Eldorado2k]

I've been looking to get a new waterless wash and was wondering what dilution you are using the Uber at? I've been seeing conflicting opinions where people are saying using a "rinseless wash product" isn't as effective as a "true waterless wash" product such as Ultima. I would be using it between weekly rinseless to clean water spotting, pollen, tree and bird droppings like you showed...

Confused where the line is drawn between a QD and Waterless....

3oz. WG Uber Concentrate per 1 gallon of water for waterless wash.

 

[howardm4]

Same w/ Ultima. Those directions are 0.5oz per 22oz water which I translate to 0.75 per 32 approx (since I use a 32oz bottle) and that is 3oz per gallon.

 

[Setec Astronomy]

I didn't have time to read this whole thread, but I see there has been some discussion of the definition of "washing".

The other winter we were looking here in NJ like we were going to be into water restrictions come spring (last spring...I think in the fall we had been in a "drought watch" and the next step came the lawn watering and car washing prohibitions). Anyway, the "car washing" statement was so vague, I actually emailed the state pleading with them to modify the language to allow rinseless and waterless washing and explained what those were and how little water they used...of course, I never heard anything back.

State water authorities and HOA's are not going to parse washing down into 3 categories...when these are people who have never washed a car. My friend moved to a condo place a few years ago, the rules say "no car repairs" or something vague like that...does checking your oil, replacing windshield wipers, fall into the banned category? They also have a no car washing policy, however they have a dedicated area with a hose spigot for washing.

 

[fightnews]

I didn't have time to read this whole thread, but I see there has been some discussion of the definition of "washing".

The other winter we were looking here in NJ like we were going to be into water restrictions come spring (last spring...I think in the fall we had been in a "drought watch" and the next step came the lawn watering and car washing prohibitions). Anyway, the "car washing" statement was so vague, I actually emailed the state pleading with them to modify the language to allow rinseless and waterless washing and explained what those were and how little water they used...of course, I never heard anything back.

State water authorities and HOA's are not going to parse washing down into 3 categories...when these are people who have never washed a car. My friend moved to a condo place a few years ago, the rules say "no car repairs" or something vague like that...does checking your oil, replacing windshield wipers, fall into the banned category? They also have a no car washing policy, however they have a dedicated area with a hose spigot for washing.

There was a water ban in my town last summer. I still washed my car with my pressure washer every weekend nobody did anything.

 

[Route246]

3oz. WG Uber Concentrate per 1 gallon of water for waterless wash.

I tried waterless last weekend as you recommended. It works really well. I now know how you got the dirty towels in that other thread. LOL.

My towels were always clean because I rinsed off that dirt before the towels hit the paint to dry it.

I see the merits of waterless and rinseless now very clearly. Since I am not water-restricted it is easier to "waste" water. The next time we have severe drought restrictions I now know there is a way around it. Thanks.

 

[Eldorado2k]

I tried waterless last weekend as you recommended. It works really well. I now know how you got the dirty towels in that other thread. LOL.

My towels were always clean because I rinsed off that dirt before the towels hit the paint to dry it.

I see the merits of waterless and rinseless now very clearly. Since I am not water-restricted it is easier to "waste" water. The next time we have severe drought restrictions I now know there is a way around it. Thanks.

Conserving water is 1 thing, conserving time and energy is another. I did a quik waterless wash on the Kia this morning in literally less than 10min. not including the roof, windows & wheels. Is it perfect without hitting those areas? Of course not, but the paint is clean and so smooth.

 

[Route246]

Conserving water is 1 thing, conserving time and energy is another. I did a quik waterless wash on the Kia this morning in literally less than 10min. not including the roof, windows & wheels. Is it perfect without hitting those areas? Of course not, but the paint is clean and so smooth.

It works well for my RS because of the aero and ground effects causes the rear deck and rear end of the car to be a dust magnet while the rest of the car stays relatively clean. I hit the rear vertical panels and it cleans up like it was just washed and it takes less than 5 min. I keep a covered bucket of wash solution and plenty of 1200 gsm towels on hand (I don't like mitts) and hit the car, almost like a QD-type of touch up. It is amazing technology, lifts the dust and gunk, prevents marring and wipes spotlessly clean. I'm really impressed with the whole concept.

 

[chet31]

Rinseless wash is made to order for housing where there is no water available - or if you need to do a stealth wash. Just need a garden sprayer, a bucket full of solution, and a bucket for used towels. I do a rinseless in my garage, some solution drips on the floor, but it dries in under an hour. Park in a spot free from prying eyes, or drive off the premises and do it.

 

[Eldorado2k]

It works well for my RS because of the aero and ground effects causes the rear deck and rear end of the car to be a dust magnet while the rest of the car stays relatively clean. I hit the rear vertical panels and it cleans up like it was just washed and it takes less than 5 min. I keep a covered bucket of wash solution and plenty of 1200 gsm towels on hand (I don't like mitts) and hit the car, almost like a QD-type of touch up. It is amazing technology, lifts the dust and gunk, prevents marring and wipes spotlessly clean. I'm really impressed with the whole concept.

That’s what’s up.

 

[6od]

But there you have it. It’s not only possible, it’s easy. And no my car isn’t full of swirls. It’s a good 90% swirl free at least.

Wolfgang Uber is a product that IME has lived up to the hype. It’s earned an undisputed spot on my shelf for the longrun. I’d rate it 5 stars. Kudos to WG for making it an outstanding value too.

Okay. You have totally sold me on waterless/rinseless washes, which I was not entirely sure of before. But seeing those waterspots disappear was all I needed. And also being in LA, I imagine we deal with (relatively) the same amounts of dust. And also sun (though I usually work too late at night to ever be up at 7:30AM to wash my car - it's a life goal though).

Now I have to get one of those... bottle... spray things.

 

[Route246]

Okay. You have totally sold me on waterless/rinseless washes, which I was not entirely sure of before. But seeing those waterspouts disappear was all I needed. And also being in LA, I imagine we deal with relatively the same amounts of dust. And also sun (though I usually work too late at night to ever be up at 7:30AM to wash my car - it's a life goal though).

Now I have to get one of those... bottle... spray things.

He sold me on the same thing. All it took was a 25% off sale and I ordered a gallon of Uber and the initial results were beyond what I expected. I thought ONR was really good but Uber seems to me to be a slight bit better, in almost indistinguishable ways but as Eldo said, it really lives up to the hype, and it is one of the few products I've used that does live up to the hype.

 

[glen e]

My condo is exactly the same, I can't hose wash and I agree with that. We have some trucks that come in that have been off RoadIng and I don't want the crap all over the condo garage floor. Do a rinseless .....There's no problem with wiping the car down which is essentially what you're doing and you're not leaving any massive amounts of water on the ground. My condo has never had a problem with a rinseless, and has knowledge that I do it. Look on YouTube for the Gary Dean method. I've been doing it for three years. My car never sees a hose. I use carpro ech20 , 6 mf's and a waffe weave to dry. Takes 20 minutes .

 

[6od]

He sold me on the same thing. All it took was a 25% off sale and I ordered a gallon of Uber and the initial results were beyond what I expected. I thought ONR was really good but Uber seems to me to be a slight bit better, in almost indistinguishable ways but as Eldo said, it really lives up to the hype, and it is one of the few products I've used that does live up to the hype.

That's good to hear! I am actually ordering a bottle right now! Luckily I'd only got an 8 oz bottle of ONR. I'm getting the 16oz size of the Wolfgang though cause I'm a sucker for those dispensing bottles.

Now... for more microfiber towels. And also, a place to put them (which I fear will be a problem that resurfaces over and over again... as if I needed another thing to collect).

 

[Gunny Fitz]

Only 20 ounces of Water needed to use the Hoseless Lift Kit from Ammo NYC with "Frothe" that is more than enough to clean two full size cars to an immaculate finish! Hands down the best gear Ive stumbled across is YEARS! Spray it on, wipe it off with 6 Microfiber Towels included in his Kit. If you're an ONR user, you absolutely must give this stuff a try! SPECTACULAR FOLKS!!!

 

[oneheadlite]

Wow Gunny, you're really going gung ho about shouting this stuff out.

Was going to mention in one of your other few threads about the Frothe - ONR seems to be like a rinseless wash gateway drug: it's where a lot of people start, but often move on from. It's not a bad product (I've got a gallon), but I've found most other rinseless products give me a better clean, better shine, or stay clean longer after (or all of the above).

Not trying to come off like a jerk, I get being excited about a new product you love. I'm also not anti-Ammo, I haven't used any of Larry's stuff, but I like him enough I listened to virtually all of the Podcast series he did.