Gyeon Frothe or CarPro Reset

There's something to "synergy", I guess, but my car's results beg to differ

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I got their new product for ceramic coating Restart. Haven't used it yet. Would check it out over Bathe, however.
 
vkn1 said:
I got their new product for ceramic coating Restart. Haven't used it yet. Would check it out over Bathe, however.
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I just saw the video on Restart and they are two different products. Restart has an iron cleaner on board and is a decontamination type wash and Bathe seems to be a maintenance type wash.
 
I'm not sure Bathe Essence is even made anymore, without looking it up I say this because the bottle I have has solidified to a point where it takes "some time" to come out, think the old ketchup commercial using the song "Anticipation" because it will "make you wait"...to pour out.

It's hard for alot of us here to not top a coating, it's just who we are but if your someone whom has a coated car and only wants the actual coating characteristics, well, Gyeon Lift is a great pre-wash when doing a 2BM w/ Reset or if the car is a few days dusty, Lift is a great option to remove dust/pollen with a simple foam/dwell/rinse. Both products have NO additives in them

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Gotcha, I guess I am somewhat new and don't know the terminology well yet. My protocol is wash every 3 months or so with something like Restart for a "decontamination" and between those I only do water jet cleaning (dried with blower) every week or two with Ceramic Detailer for shine and (supposedly) keeping coating healthy. Theory is to avoid touching car any more than necessary. My apologies if misunderstood what maintenance wash is.
 
vkn1 said:
Gotcha, I guess I am somewhat new and don't know the terminology well yet. My protocol is wash every 3 months or so with something like Restart for a "decontamination" and between those I only do water jet cleaning (dried with blower) every week or two with Ceramic Detailer for shine and (supposedly) keeping coating healthy. Theory is to avoid touching car any more than necessary. My apologies if misunderstood what maintenance wash is.
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It's all good, you've got a solid plan for the car. Btw, what kind of car do you have?

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vkn1 said:
Gotcha, I guess I am somewhat new and don't know the terminology well yet. My protocol is wash every 3 months or so with something like Restart for a "decontamination" and between those I only do water jet cleaning (dried with blower) every week or two with Ceramic Detailer for shine and (supposedly) keeping coating healthy. Theory is to avoid touching car any more than necessary. My apologies if misunderstood what maintenance wash is.
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No worries or need to apologize. Just look at the title of this post Gyeon FROTHE or CarPro Reset. There is no Gyeon FROTHE, I meant to say Gyeon Bathe. I'm a hobbyist doing this for 10 years and I don't have all the terminology down.

Theory is to avoid touching car any more than necessary.

Sound theory - that's our goal, but I think your approach is wrong - or at least for my comfort level. Others may chime in on your washing technique, but I don't think just washing with a water "jet" will get your car clean enough to use a detailer. Sure, you will get the loose and heavy dirt off, but just not enough for anything to be sprayed on and wiped off. I would think that would induce swirls.
 
M240i in Estoril Blue. Just bought a 2019 few months ago and over the moon with how great it looks after paint correction, coating, and proper detailing :) Girls especially seem to admire a clean little car. I get notes left under wiper in female handwriting with little heart emoticons etc. Feel like my car has groupies :D Been quite an experience!
 
Good point. I might actually be rubbing grime in. Will have a rethink. I guess the thing is I like to at least rinse it once a week to keep it looking clean, but something more thorough might be time prohibitive. I like to just stop by self-serve bay on Monday morning commutes. Maybe I should make the weekly routine totally touchless except for the wheels (i.e., make quick detailing less frequent). I live in an apartment where don't have outdoor water supply.
 
vkn1 said:
Good point. I might actually be rubbing grime in. Will have a rethink. I guess the thing is I like to at least rinse it once a week to keep it looking clean, but something more thorough might be time prohibitive. I like to just stop by self-serve bay on Monday morning commutes. Maybe I should make the weekly routine totally touchless except for the wheels (i.e., make quick detailing less frequent). I live in an apartment where don't have outdoor water supply.
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Look into rinseless. It’s scary at first but it works. Been doing it over a decade and have had great results.
 
VKN1, there's a little bit of a learning curve for sure but it's actually alot of fun and efficient. There's a couple methods and I'd like to pass them along to you before you watch a how to video.

RW using the "Gary Dean" method:

Take a 5 gallon bucket and add 1.5 ounces of Ech2o (let's just use this because it's my favorite RW) and then add 3.5 gallons of water and stir it up. Take your spray bottle and dunk it in there to fill it up. Then add about 5-6 Eagle edgeless microfiber towels and submerge them. Take your spray bottle and spray a panel at a time, say the hood for instance. Then take out 1 mf towel and squeeze out a little of the solution (it's ok if it's dripping a bit) Fold the towel in half and half again, this gives you 8 total squares of cleaning surface per towel. Take the towel and place it on the pre-treated panel and simply wipe it across. After the 1st swipe inspect your towels square, you should have a single line of dirt. Depending upon how dirty the panel is the entire square may be dirty...but there could be a section NOT dirty and here you simply roll over the dirty section and use the remaining, smaller section to make another pass. In most cases you'll get 1-3 passes per square. Once your done with the panel grab your drying towel and dry it off. Repeat these steps around the car.

RW method using the grout sponge:

For this you make the solution the same except you add a grit guard to the bottom of the bucket. This device keeps the dirt at the bottom. You'll get a little bit of dirt as you'll be reusing your wash tool...the grout sponge. You also need a 2nd bucket, with a grit guard in it as well. Now you pre-treat the panel like before, take the grout sponge and dunk it into the solution and squeeze out a little bit, not too much. Make a single swipe across the panel, flip over the sponge and make another pass. Then take the sponge, dunk into the 2nd bucket with just water in it. Squeeze and rub the grout sponge on the grit guard to release the dirt. Then dunk the sponge back into the solution and work your way around the car, ALWAYS PRE-TREATING EACH PANEL! Pre-treating is important as it does 2 things, lifts and breaks down the dirt as well as create lubrication on the surface. Here as well, dry each panel as you work around the car.

Waterless wash method:

With waterless you spray each panel, take a dry, plush, edgeless microfiber towel and swipe across the panel. Once again the towel should be folded so you've got 8 total squares of cleaning. Inspect your cleaning square to determine how many swipes per square you get. Once any towel is all dirty you simply put it aside to be washes later (with specific mf towel detergent) Make sure you dry each panel before moving to the next one.

If you have any questions feel free to ask, we're all here to help you. Also if I missed something chime in, I'm watching Liverpool v Crystal Palace, so I'm a little distracted

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Klasse Act said:
VKN1, there's a little bit of a learning curve for sure but it's actually alot of fun and efficient. There's a couple methods and I'd like to pass them along to you before you watch a how to video.

RW using the "Gary Dean" method:

Take a 5 gallon bucket and add 1.5 ounces of Ech2o (let's just use this because it's my favorite RW) and then add 3.5 gallons of water and stir it up. Take your spray bottle and dunk it in there to fill it up. Then add about 5-6 Eagle edgeless microfiber towels and submerge them. Take your spray bottle and spray a panel at a time, say the hood for instance. Then take out 1 mf towel and squeeze out a little of the solution (it's ok if it's dripping a bit) Fold the towel in half and half again, this gives you 8 total squares of cleaning surface per towel. Take the towel and place it on the pre-treated panel and simply wipe it across. After the 1st swipe inspect your towels square, you should have a single line of dirt. Depending upon how dirty the panel is the entire square may be dirty...but there could be a section NOT dirty and here you simply roll over the dirty section and use the remaining, smaller section to make another pass. In most cases you'll get 1-3 passes per square. Once your done with the panel grab your drying towel and dry it off. Repeat these steps around the car.

RW method using the grout sponge:

For this you make the solution the same except you add a grit guard to the bottom of the bucket. This device keeps the dirt at the bottom. You'll get a little bit of dirt as you'll be reusing your wash tool...the grout sponge. You also need a 2nd bucket, with a grit guard in it as well. Now you pre-treat the panel like before, take the grout sponge and dunk it into the solution and squeeze out a little bit, not too much. Make a single swipe across the panel, flip over the sponge and make another pass. Then take the sponge, dunk into the 2nd bucket with just water in it. Squeeze and rub the grout sponge on the grit guard to release the dirt. Then dunk the sponge back into the solution and work your way around the car, ALWAYS PRE-TREATING EACH PANEL! Pre-treating is important as it does 2 things, lifts and breaks down the dirt as well as create lubrication on the surface. Here as well, dry each panel as you work around the car.

Waterless wash method:

With waterless you spray each panel, take a dry, plush, edgeless microfiber towel and swipe across the panel. Once again the towel should be folded so you've got 8 total squares of cleaning. Inspect your cleaning square to determine how many swipes per square you get. Once any towel is all dirty you simply put it aside to be washes later (with specific mf towel detergent) Make sure you dry each panel before moving to the next one.

If you have any questions feel free to ask, we're all here to help you. Also if I missed something chime in, I'm watching Liverpool v Crystal Palace, so I'm a little distracted

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Thank you for the advice. Indeed, I think I am going to have to switch to the rinseless approach. I have a ceramic coating on my car and would like to do a quick wash weekly. Can you recommend me a wash product that might be appropriate? I am having trouble finding N-917 over here. I also wonder if the SiO2 products might make sense for me, even though I already like my Gyeon Ceramic Detailer for a final gloss. If I could get almost just as good a gloss without the additional step maybe it would be smarter to use something like the Wolfgang Uber with SiO2. Excited to improve my routine with a rinseless wash!
 
I'm relatively new to detailing but after using about 10 soaps, reset is still my favorite. I love the smell and slickness. I kinda moved pass the soap wars. :)

btw i love rinseless washes! I don't like using a ton of water, i'm still power rinsing the car first though. I don't care about swirls that's what i have my polishers for. :D I stopped chasing perfection too, leave that to the pros and have some fun.
 
vkn1 said:
Thank you for the advice. Indeed, I think I am going to have to switch to the rinseless approach. I have a ceramic coating on my car and would like to do a quick wash weekly. Can you recommend me a wash product that might be appropriate? I am having trouble finding N-917 over here. I also wonder if the SiO2 products might make sense for me, even though I already like my Gyeon Ceramic Detailer for a final gloss. If I could get almost just as good a gloss without the additional step maybe it would be smarter to use something like the Wolfgang Uber with SiO2. Excited to improve my routine with a rinseless wash!
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Where are you?

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I'm in Central Europe. I could just order Optimum No Rinse from Amazon.de, but do wonder if an SiO2 product would be preferable.
 
vkn1 said:
I'm in Central Europe. I could just order Optimum No Rinse from Amazon.de, but do wonder if an SiO2 product would be preferable.
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It’s a good product and I think the polymers it leaves behind don’t stick around too long. An SIO2 might be better but it wouldn’t be the end of the world if you used ONR.
 
Ok thanks for the help everyone. CarPro is also widely available and I do seem to find some sellers of Griot's in the UK. I see the Brilliant Rinseless wash is highly regarded around here. Is the SiO2 product considered excellent and superior for people with ceramic coatings as well? Lastly, any opinions on CarPro EcH20 vs ONR? I guess I am thinking my routine will be once a week put some RW in Sprayer and pretreat whole car, rinse that with water jet while rinsing wheel cleaner off wheels, finish with RW applied using sponge method.
 
VKN1, is TAC system available to you

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Yes the seller I usually buy Gyeon, CarPro, etc also has Tac Systems. Is this Aqua RW I see they have considered excellent?
 
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