Review and Extreme Testing: Opti-Coat 2.0 and CQuartz

So topping OC with Collinite will only last a few weeks? How do you know that the top coat is gone? Is there some kind of gauge that I'm not aware of?
Chris@Optimum said:
Rsurfer said:
It bothers me that you say that OCW will only last a few weeks. Granted it's so easy to apply, but when Optimum states that it could last up to 5 months, I'm a little shocked at your statement of a few weeks. I understand all the variables, but five months to a few weeks is a huge difference.




I'm sorry that bothered you, but I'm sure you took it out of context. We were discussing topping Opti Coat with a wax for the look. When you top Opti Coat with anything it will only last a few weeks. I was not referring to OCW as a stand alone LSP. As a stand alone LSP, you can expect 1-3 months on average and 5 months on garage queens. I know that is still a huge variance, but there are tons of variables.
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CEE DOG said:
Hi Ivan,

OC is easier physically to apply since you don't have to buff it off. Unless of course you left a high spot which would add more physical labor. You shouldn't have to remove a high spot after you know what your doing which should become apparent after one application on a test panel.

CQ is mentally easier to apply because you can't leave high spots that have to be polished out and you don't have a narrow window to get it right. Of all the coatings: CQ, OC, C1, System X, CQ is the only one that is left on the paint like a sealant (apply very thin) and then buffed off awhile later. All the other coatings either need to be buffed off or made mostly level almost immediately. Someone correct me on C1 if I'm wrong about that one.

Yes, 30ml of CQ will coat two cars if applied correctly.

What question about CQ do you need answered? I am very happy to help.




I agree!
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Yes Son, you are correct about C1! It is WOWO. System X is too,No need to wait 3 minutes. Do a panel and wipe off. It is different in that you can add product within 1 to 2 hours and wipe it level.
Yes, 30ml of CQ will coat two cars if applied correctly.

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Rsurfer said:
So topping OC with Collinite will only last a few weeks? How do you know that the top coat is gone? Is there some kind of gauge that I'm not aware of?
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You will see the beading characteristics return to what they were before you topped OC with whatever. You will also be able to feel that wax is gone, as OC doesn't feel like a wax.
 
So what you are saying is if I applied OC and looked at the beading..it will be the same a year or more from now?
Chris@Optimum said:
You will see the beading characteristics return to what they were before you topped OC with whatever. You will also be able to feel that wax is gone, as OC doesn't feel like a wax.
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Chris@Optimum said:
It looks very much like a sealant. I always tell those who seem a little apprehensive to try Opti Seal first. It applies and looks very similar to Opti Coat but with a shorter commitment. There will be a updated version of Opti Seal available within a week or so, too!
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Off-topic, but this seems to have gotten overlooked - what's new with the updated version of Opti-Seal, Chris? Better durability (from some strange alchemy of Opti-Coat and Opti-Seal)? Beading, sheeting and dirt-repelling similar to Opti-Coat? Both? I'd really love an Opti-Coat-lite - would be great for someone who isn't quite ready to coat the entire car, but wanted the water- and dirt-interaction characteristics of OC :)
 
Rsurfer said:
So what you are saying is if I applied OC and looked at the beading..it will be the same a year or more from now?
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Yes.

umi000 said:
Off-topic, but this seems to have gotten overlooked - what's new with the updated version of Opti-Seal, Chris? Better durability (from some strange alchemy of Opti-Coat and Opti-Seal)? Beading, sheeting and dirt-repelling similar to Opti-Coat? Both? I'd really love an Opti-Coat-lite - would be great for someone who isn't quite ready to coat the entire car, but wanted the water- and dirt-interaction characteristics of OC :)
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We are seeing more gloss and longevity...not to the point of a year, but a noticeable improvement over the current formula. The gloss level looks like you've layered it.
 
Hey guys if i were to coat with cquarts... is it needed to do a full wash down with iron x/tar x or maybe just their new product TRIX?

Since if iron and tar x will strip LSP o.O.... Shouldnt it strip my new layer of wax and sealant?
 
Rsurfer said:
So what you are saying is if I applied OC and looked at the beading..it will be the same a year or more from now?
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I cant say a year yet, but I did my son's Yarus in May and it was in NY State until February. It beads same to the best of my recollection, Ron. I would say an emphatic Yes so far.
 
Chris@Optimum said:
Yes.



We are seeing more gloss and longevity...not to the point of a year, but a noticeable improvement over the current formula. The gloss level looks like you've layered it.
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Chris how does the look compare to OC or OG latest versions?
 
fenderpicks said:
Hey guys if i were to coat with cquarts... is it needed to do a full wash down with iron x/tar x or maybe just their new product TRIX?

Since if iron and tar x will strip LSP o.O.... Shouldnt it strip my new layer of wax and sealant?
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To be sure, I would polish sealant off first. You can do it by hand even. Any good APC will remove polish oil residue.
 
Thanks Jim.
Old Tiger said:
I cant say a year yet, but I did my son's Yarus in May and it was in NY State until February. It beads same to the best of my recollection, Ron. I would say an emphatic Yes so far.
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So I got successfully applied OC to my roof! It was very easy, much easier than I expected.

I ended up using the supplied applicator just because. I as I spread it around it did sqeak a bit. Does that mean it didnt have enough on it? But I did front to back side to side motion and it worked fine.

I think I may have had one spots where it didnt flash right. It didnt look like an oily spot though, but it did reflect light in the sun differently, made it looks very bright. So I went over it with finish polish because it sat to long and I couldnt buff it away with the applicator.

I think I am going to apply another just to make sure I got full coverage as the roof is the whole reason I am OC'ing in the first place.
 
Hey, I have a question. After I am done with the OC. I took off the blue dripper and put the black plug back in. I wasnt sure about the drippers so I dripped some OPC into and then rinse it with water.

Is that the proper way to make sure it doesnt get clogged with OC?
 
timaishu said:
So I got successfully applied OC to my roof! It was very easy, much easier than I expected.

I ended up using the supplied applicator just because. I as I spread it around it did sqeak a bit. Does that mean it didnt have enough on it? But I did front to back side to side motion and it worked fine.

I think I may have had one spots where it didnt flash right. It didnt look like an oily spot though, but it did reflect light in the sun differently, made it looks very bright. So I went over it with finish polish because it sat to long and I couldnt buff it away with the applicator.

I think I am going to apply another just to make sure I got full coverage as the roof is the whole reason I am OC'ing in the first place.
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Some squeaking was pretty normal for me, but as long as the applicator was sliding around smoothly you shouldn't have to worry about having applied too little. When I was applying it on the light side, the applicator really struggled to move smoothly. If you believe you have used enough and the applicator starts getting grabby, that is an indication you are working the panel for too long.

For the second coat, you will want to either do it in the first 3-5 minutes or in my experience wait at least 24 hours. I tried waiting about 12-15 hours for one of the second coat applications I did and it was very grabby and applied very poorly. There was some slight marring/streaking from the fail second coat butit cleaned up well with some opti instant detailer.
 
fenderpicks said:
Hey Jim what type of polish do u recommend?
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I am a huge Optimum Polish fan. Great work time and easy to wipe off as long as you do it as soon as you finish polishing. Also you can remove all residue with a dampp MF. Of traditional polishes I like 3M Ultrafine to finish and M105 to cut.
 
timaishu said:
Hey, I have a question. After I am done with the OC. I took off the blue dripper and put the black plug back in. I wasnt sure about the drippers so I dripped some OPC into and then rinse it with water.

Is that the proper way to make sure it doesnt get clogged with OC?
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I would think that would work fine, water would probably due the trick by it self but power clean won't hurt.

Thus far I simply sit the blue tip point up in the box with the opti-coat and let it dry there...at that point opti-coat is fluid enough that it will drain down and I can see a small wet spot on the cardboard. I have done this probably 7-8 times between a car, a couple motorcycles, and odds and ends that have been opti-coated and I have had no problem with the tip clogging or gumming up.
 
So should I attempt to apply the second coat today? It has been drying in the sun for almost an hour now Id guess.
 
timaishu said:
Hey, I have a question. After I am done with the OC. I took off the blue dripper and put the black plug back in. I wasnt sure about the drippers so I dripped some OPC into and then rinse it with water.

Is that the proper way to make sure it doesnt get clogged with OC?
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I just screw the black cap back in. Never had an issue with 4 syringes of OG just doing this.
 
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