I am very upset over this

[LegacyGT]

As seen on my drive to work today, the sign popped up yesterday during the day, have not seen any actual enforcement cameras yet. edit: The enforcement is going to be speed cameras.

 

[1MZsLastForever]

Enjoy the roads as much as you can, while you still can. Big Brother is going to make it uncomfortable to drive in the future with all the cameras and what not.

I wonder what exactly is being photo enforced though? Speed cameras? I'd hope not.

 

[LegacyGT]

Enjoy the roads as much as you can, while you still can. Big Brother is going to make it uncomfortable to drive in the future with all the cameras and what not.

I wonder what exactly is being photo enforced though? Speed cameras? I'd hope not.

It is Speed Cameras ... they have been talking about this for a while, @#$#@%!

 

[alko]

They have those everywhere out here. It could mean a few things:

Marked Police Car on side of the road taking picture of speeders
Unmarked Police Cars
Civilian Cars
Stationary cameras in plain sight
Stationary camers out of site

etc. etc....all for the police department to generate revenue. And its working out here. But it does nothing for speeders on the highway. Out here in the DC/MD/VA area we have a beltway. Posted speed limit is 55 MPH. Do people do this speed? Hell no. The average is about 70-75 MPH. They are going to start putting up speed cameras around the beltway. They are going to make a ton of money. Honestly...if it can cut down on speeders and accident related deaths, I'm for it. People out here ball anywhere...side streets, residential streets, highways, in front of schools etc.

 

[CrownKote]

In the Denver Metro Area there are over 6k cameras monitoring traffic in various ways... We have had this going on for about 5 years and they are installing more each day!

I agree with the big brother statement as honestly we no longer have private lifes!

 

[reality33]

I wish this was done in more places to be honest. You hear of way to many people being hurt or killed due to negligent driving.

This will only help in getting people to slow down and be more careful.

 

[FUNX650]

Sorry this is coming to your area...Been around mine for over a year. There is a Class-Action Civil Lawsuit being brought up against this action...time and money will tell the tale.

One issue is the lay-off/termination of members of the police force......don't need as many now, the beauracrats say.; HMMMMM...the major crimes rate has began to escalate, though. I wonder why? DUH

On a lighter note: Looks like your making those six hour, 500 mile, "moonshine running" days are almost over.
{Run a quart mason jar of the good stuff by my house first, would ya?}


Bob

 

[Bunky]

They have had red light cameras here but there has been controversy given that 1) they are operated by third parties who work on commission and 2) you cannot really contest the photo.

I do not see any legally wrong with the concept of cameras as long as it is no different than a human. It is now just technology makes it so much easier to catch speeders.

 

[LegacyGT]

I wish this was done in more places to be honest. You hear of way to many people being hurt or killed due to negligent driving.

This will only help in getting people to slow down and be more careful.

I agree with you on the negligent driving, however speeding is not negligent. Driving while talking on a cell phone, texting, not paying attention - that is negligent and should be what is being enforced.

 

[CrownKote]

I wish this was done in more places to be honest. You hear of way to many people being hurt or killed due to negligent driving.

This will only help in getting people to slow down and be more careful.

I kinda disagree... It seems that here people don't care about the ticket as they are usually about $25-40 each and they don't count against your license unless you have more than"X" amount of them...

The problem that cameras will never fix is the texters, talkers, eaters, drinkers, yelling at the kiders, readers, combing you hairers, makeupers, shavers, tooth brushers, surfing on the webers, emailers, doing workers, and worst of all (as they are all of the above but a lot worse) teenagers!

 

[CrownKote]

I agree with you on the negligent driving, however speeding is not negligent. Driving while talking on a cell phone, texting, not paying attention - that is negligent and should be what is being enforced.

Here they are trying to enforce it but not going to stop many... because you have to have a reason to be pulled over and a cop seeing a phone in your hand is not one that is enough...

 

[LegacyGT]

They have had red light cameras here but there has been controversy given that 1) they are operated by third parties who work on commission and 2) you cannot really contest the photo.

I do not see any legally wrong with the concept of cameras as long as it is no different than a human. It is now just technology makes it so much easier to catch speeders.

We have red light cameras as well. They were declared illegal for a while, but somehow they got re-instated because they make a lot of money.

Red light cameras in a number of cases increase the accident rates at intersections, because drivers will slam on their brakes instead of going through a changing light, and get rear-ended by the car following them.

Also there are many cases of the local governments shortening the yellow light time to increase the revenue that the cameras generate. Where there is a direct profit incentive to be made, they can not be trusted. Now if the revenue went to charity it could be different.

 

[LegacyGT]

On a lighter note: Looks like your making those six hour, 500 mile, "moonshine running" days are almost over.
{Run a quart mason jar of the good stuff by my house first, would ya?}


Bob

I'll be by shortly, and take the back roads

 

[Bunky]

I agree with you on the negligent driving, however speeding is not negligent. Driving while talking on a cell phone, texting, not paying attention - that is negligent and should be what is being enforced.

This is where judgement in needed. Riding 90 mph is not too smart especially when mixed with slower traffic. In congested areas, excessive speed is dangerous.

However, I believe enforcement should be primarily limited to speed 10 mph over the posted speed. Tickets should not be viewed as a revenue source for the government and the lawyers.

 

[LegacyGT]

The problem that cameras will never fix is the texters, talkers, eaters, drinkers, yelling at the kiders, readers, and worst of all (as they are all of the above but a lot worse) teenagers!

:iagree: And that is what is dangerous. There is actually a study out there that found that owners of radar detectors are 30% less likely to get in an accident, because they are focusing more of their attention on driving. People speeding do not bother me one bit. Distracted drivers that endanger everyone's lives regardless of speed make me very mad.

Talking on your cell phone while driving is equivalent to driving drunk.

 

[LegacyGT]

This is where judgement in needed. Riding 90 mph is not too smart especially when mixed with slower traffic. In congested areas, excessive speed is dangerous.

However, I believe enforcement should be primarily limited to speed 10 mph over the posted speed. Tickets should not be viewed as a revenue source for the government and the lawyers.

That's a good point, if it were rush hour that would be dangerous, but if it were 2am and someone wanted to ride 90mph that doesn't bother me a bit. This is why humans need to be in the loop to assess the conditions surrounding the event.

 

[SRTSean]

I wish this was done in more places to be honest. You hear of way to many people being hurt or killed due to negligent driving.

This will only help in getting people to slow down and be more careful.

Yep, but why stop at speed cameras? Why not let government put monitoring cameras on every city block so that they can track all crimes that occur?

With all due respect, it's people like you that are allowing this country to go down the road of 1984.

 

[LegacyGT]

I think this thread can spark some good discussion, and I don't want it to get locked, so try to avoid personal attacks.

 

[SRTSean]

Hence the "with all due respect." ; )

 

[tommythecat]

The only rule of the road I don't follow is the speed limit. I speed, but I signal when changing lanes, pass on the left, get out of the left lane after passing, come to complete stops at stop signs, wear my seat belt, etc. People that don't follow all those rules are the real danger...not speeders.