Corrention Choice for Jet Black BMW??

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Hello. I have a 2006 BMW 325i that is Jet Black in color. I recently purchased a Griot's polisher with a foam pad kit. I was wondering what products would be recommended for doing paint correction on a non-metallic jet black finish? The paint has swirl marks, light scratches, and medium scratches. I am new to detailing (at least this level) and am looking for a easy to work with product that will give be great results. With so many products available I have been having a hard time trying to determine what to get. Thank you.
 
I would start out with the D/A Microfiber system from Meguiars. It is a great system to get you started but once you get the finish to defect free you should look into some products such as M205 or Ultimate polish to maintain it just for light corrections and keeping the paint up to par. You can then top it with whichever wax you choose from there.

How do you like your BMW?
 
The paint on that car, assuming it's like any other Jet Black 2006 BMW, is EXTREMELY soft. I've had good luck using Wolfgang Finishing Glaze 3.0 to remove light defects and finish down quite nicely using green polishing/finishing pads.

For your more moderate defects/scratches, I'd use something like Wolfgang Total Swirl Remover 3.0 on a white or orange pad. After using TSR, you will need to follow with FG 3.0 to restore gloss.

The Wolfgang polishes are very easy to use for a beginner, and consistently provide great results, so I recommend starting there. :cheers:
 
smack said:
I would start out with the D/A Microfiber system from Meguiars. It is a great system to get you started but once you get the finish to defect free you should look into some products such as M205 or Ultimate polish to maintain it just for light corrections and keeping the paint up to par. You can then top it with whichever wax you choose from there.

How do you like your BMW?
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In almost any other situation, I'd agree. But the Meguiar's DA Microfiber system is intended for use on harder paint systems. It will not finish down nicely at all on BMW Jet Black from '06. The paint on those cars is so soft that it mars just by looking at it the wrong way.
 
I did some more reading on the products and was wondering about these two as well:

Poor Boy's Pro Polish
Poor Boy's Black Hole Glaze
 
Depending on how much correction you need, you might want to get your hands on a high speed buffer to cut the time down.

My wife has a black 330i and I cut it with the Menzerna Super intensive polish on a high speed with a dense polishing pad from lake country.
Then I used the flex and went over it with a softer polishing pad with some Menzerna super intensive polish.
Then I used some Menzerna final polish with a softer pad also with the flex.
Then I used some Ziano Z5 on a jewling pad and the flex
Then I used some Wolfgang sealant with a jewling pad.
Then I put two coats of wax. I used the P21s 100% carnuba.
 
Cmich325i said:
Depending on how much correction you need, you might want to get your hands on a high speed buffer to cut the time down.
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It's funny you should say that since my new Griot's Garage Polisher just arrived the other day from AutoGeek. So I got that covered:-)
 
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In almost any other situation, I'd agree. But the Meguiar's DA Microfiber system is intended for use on harder paint systems. It will not finish down nicely at all on BMW Jet Black from '06. The paint on those cars is so soft that it mars just by looking at it the wrong way.
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I have no problems with it finishing down on both my 07 and 11 Jet Black BMW's. You just have to take your time with the D301.
 
The first picture is while I was working on it

The second is after I finished the polishing - before the sealant and wax

The third is after driving it around a little bit.
 
The Meguiars DA system won't give you the finish you want. It will make a big improvement, but I don't think the second stage does a good enough job following up the first on the BMW paints. I don't know who said they are soft, but I think they are pretty tough to work and you will have to work something like a MG105/205 much longer and harder to get the same results as the Menzerna.
 
So I am assuming that the Poor Boy's products I mentioned earlier are not recommended being I haven't heard any feedback yet??
 
On mine, I had 10 years worth of neglect to deal with. Without any prior experience, I decided on Meg's Compound, followed by Menz. Power Finish, and then Menzerna 85rd for the final. The pads were Lake Countrys, 1st yellow (heavy cut), 2nd green, and last gray (polish). They wee the CCS smart pads and a Makita Rotary was used.

I wasn't satisfied when all was said and done, but this was due to me being too delicate with the tools as I read read so much about the soft paint. Without prior experience I was really afraid of burn throughs etc. I've repeated the job since, with a little less fear, and more effort with MUCH better results.

Once most of the rids, swirls and mars were gone, I sealed it with Blackfire Wet Diamond and Coll. 845.

For whatever reason, my BMW paint just didn't come across as being as soft as what I had read. Best to err on the side of caution though I guess.
 
Cmich325i said:
The Meguiars DA system won't give you the finish you want. It will make a big improvement, but I don't think the second stage does a good enough job following up the first on the BMW paints. I don't know who said they are soft, but I think they are pretty tough to work and you will have to work something like a MG105/205 much longer and harder to get the same results as the Menzerna.
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The newer paints are different. I believed they "fixed" Jet Black somewhere around 2008 and it is now harder, but the 2006s had very, very soft paint - and it was only this particular color (other colors were much harder). I wouldn't recommend starting with #105 unless the paint was completely trashed.
 
smack said:
Your best bet is going to use your products on different test spots and see what your products do for you.
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I am trying to not have to order multiple products. I am hoping to settle on something out of the great discussion so far in this thread:-)
 
Whatever you do, dont touch M105 until last resort. I dont think you will need anything more aggressive than that. Like I said, I think the D/A system will yeild great results for you. Its also extremely user friendly.
 
smack said:
Whatever you do, dont touch M105 until last resort. I dont think you will need anything more aggressive than that. Like I said, I think the D/A system will yeild great results for you. Its also extremely user friendly.
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With that here are a couple options I am considering:

Option #1
Poor Boy's Pro Polish
Poor Boy's Black Hole Glaze

Option #2
Wolfgang Finsihing Glaze 3
Wolfgang Total Swirl Remover 3
 
This was with:
MG 105 and high speed on mg burgundy pad
MG DA stage 1
MG 205 Flex med density Lake country ccs pad
MG 205 Flex and Jewling pad
Wolfgang Paint Sealant
Meguiars 26 Wax

The results were great and the car looked very good for a long time, but I was very critical of the car under florescent lights. Some of the deeper scratches, even though I worked them quite a bit, didn't come out - they just covered up very well.
 
From what I've learned about Glaze products, I'd hold off until you get a good feel for what you can't correct. If you use a glaze before you really know what you can fix, I'd think they will just make your job more difficult by masking flaws that you could have gotten out with a little more attention.

I considered them for the flaws that I was left with but decided against it since I decided I really wanted to refine my correction techniques and I had no interest in a "cover-up" or filling product. Another situation, another car, maybe.

Edit: And if the Wolfgang product (3.0) is the one I'm thinking of, its not really a "glaze", its a light cut polish. Misleading I know.
 
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