Why MF vs. Terrycloth on Tires?

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I've been reading up on tires lately and everyone seems to use a MF towel. My question is, why? I use a terrycloth dishrag (retired from my wife's kitchen). Why use a perfectly good MF towel on one of the dirtiest parts of your car when you aren't worried about scratches?

I get it if you are a big shop and you have old MF towels that are no good for paint anymore but is there another reason that I'm missing?
 
-Sorry, meant to say this in OP, I'm talking strictly tires here, not wheels (I can see why wheels need MF lol).
 
Hey Tom,

It must be a New England thing because I use everything "but" microfiber on my tires...

Terrycloth is much more robust and does a much better job in my opinion. I also use terrycloth on the doorjambs and like areas....:props:
 

I have bought a bulk pack of cheap MF from Sam's club just for this and interior cleaning of seats and carpet.


I don't know how or why buy MF towels are simply great for cleaning and scrubbing tire and such. I suggest trying it once. Clean your wheel and tire using your standard method and towel. Then, come back over the tire again with a MF towel and see how much crud it pulls out.

I was amazed when I tested it as I thought my tires were clean when using APC and a brush. But a MF towel got even more stuff out.
 
Because I have dozens of MF's that will not see paint, leather, or burl walnut...gotta use them somewhere other than just polishing aluminum.
 
Because I have dozens of MF's that will not see paint, leather, or burl walnut...gotta use them somewhere.

Good point!

Microfiber towels at some point are cycled into retirement and as they slide down that slippery slope toward the trash why no use them here.....:props:
 
... but is there another reason that I'm missing?


Assuming that you're new, and that you're detailing mainly your and the Mrs. vehicles...eventually you will join this elite group...especially when you scratch the sensitive lexan of instrument gauges and such with what you believe to be one of your best MF's.
 
Hey Tom,

It must be a New England thing because I use everything "but" microfiber on my tires...

Terrycloth is much more robust and does a much better job in my opinion. I also use terrycloth on the doorjambs and like areas....:props:


Bobby,
I'm sure you have some old MF towels you could try this out with. Please do I would like to know what you think of the cleaning ability and use once you do.​
 

Bobby,
I'm sure you have some old MF towels you could try this out with. Please do I would like to know what you think of the cleaning ability and use once you do.​

Hey Troy,

I do have a "couple" of well used ones and will give them a try...:props:
 
I don't know how or why buy MF towels are simply great for cleaning and scrubbing tire and such.

For the same reason they are good at cleaning other things, the have "micro fibers" which means they have a lot of surface area. Some of us don't like to clean tires with them because they become permanently stained. It's my perception that terry towels clean up better, which may be my imagination, but at least the terry towels I use to wipe tires are old and paid for...
 
Assuming that you're new, and that you're detailing mainly your and the Mrs. vehicles...eventually you will join this elite group...especially when you scratch the sensitive lexan of instrument gauges and such with what you believe to be one of your best MF's.

Thanks for pointing that out, but plz read OP. I use MF everywhere except tires - that was my question.

Also, as I said in OP, I get it if you have old ones, why not right?

Did not know you could clean better with the MF though...might have to try that.

Thanks for the input!
 
Wouldn't terry cloths with a longer nap, be more aggressive than MF towels?

And if assuming that, shouldn't they (at least in theory), be able to pull out more gunk than MF towels?

Most of you know me by now, and probably believe me when I say I like doing tests :D Might have to make this one of my tests lol
 

I have bought a bulk pack of cheap MF from Sam's club just for this and interior cleaning of seats and carpet.


I don't know how or why buy MF towels are simply great for cleaning and scrubbing tire and such. I suggest trying it once. Clean your wheel and tire using your standard method and towel. Then, come back over the tire again with a MF towel and see how much crud it pulls out.

I was amazed when I tested it as I thought my tires were clean when using APC and a brush. But a MF towel got even more stuff out.

I could not agree more with Troy. To wax my wheels I clean then dry with a MF. The MF will remove crud. I apply wax with a MF pad and the pad becomes little black. Upon removal/buff of the wax the MF is a little dirty.
 
I've been reading up on tires lately and everyone seems to use a MF towel. My question is, why? I use a terrycloth dishrag (retired from my wife's kitchen). Why use a perfectly good MF towel on one of the dirtiest parts of your car when you aren't worried about scratches?

I get it if you are a big shop and you have old MF towels that are no good for paint anymore but is there another reason that I'm missing?


Here's something on the topic of this thread from my article list and it can also be found in my how-to book...



The 4 minimum categories of wiping cloths



Wiping cloths
Just as important as any product or tool in your detailing arsenal are your wiping cloths. You can use the best compound, the best polish, the best LSP and of course the best buffing pads and top of the line polishers but if you're using any type of wiping cloth that is in some way, shape or form contaminated then you risk putting swirls and scratches into your car's finish. For this reason it's important to separate your wiping cloths into dedicated categories and have some type of labeling system so that you or others know what a collection of wiping cloths can be used on safely.

The ultimate goal is to have confidence that when you go to remove your LSP of a finish you've toiled over all day long, that the end results will giddy with glee, not because the paint looks fabulous, not loathsome and infuriated because you just instilled scratches back into the paint you've worked on so hard.

More than that, you want friends, family and even employees to be enabled to choose the right cloth in case they're are to perform any kind of detailing task with or without your supervision. For example, you're gone, a bird leaves a bird dropping on the hood of your girlfriend or wife's car and in their attempt to remove the bird dropping you don't want them grabbing the wrong microfiber polishing cloth and remove the bird dropping but create a new Saturday Detailing Project for you in the process.


4 Categories Minimum
Everyone should have at least 4 types of wiping cloths, some of you may have more categories like a dedicated collection of glass wiping cloths, or wiping cloths dedicated towards leather and vinyl dressings. These are the minimum, feel free to separate your wiping cloths as much as you like and places like Target offer plastic roll-around bins with drawers that you can label and store your different groups of wiping cloths. It's important to separate any cloth deemed worthing of wiping a high gloss finish from all the rest.


Good Microfiber Polishing Cloths
You can 'touch' paint with microfiber polishing cloths from this collection. These are the microfiber polishing cloths in your collection that are new or you have washed and dried and you trust them to be safe on a high gloss, polished finish.


Tatty Microfiber Polishing Cloths
These are washed, dried and clean, but their quality has fallen to a level that you have deemed them not worthing of touching a high gloss, polished finish. You don't throw them away because they still have value for wiping spray detailers or cleaner/waxes out places like door jambs, chrome wheels or bumpers, a roll bar, the paint on a boat trailer, or some components in the engine compartment. You might even keep them around for checking the oil or wiping grease off your hands after changing the oil. The point is they are still great at removing residue, just not off a swirl-free, scratch-free, high gloss surface.

Good Cotton Towels
While microfiber is superior at removing polishes, waxes and paint sealants off paint, and especially trace residues off smooth, high gloss finishes, there's still a place for good quality cotton towels. For example, cleaning you pad on the fly. Cotton towels with a large nap work better than microfiber towels. Some people prefer a cotton towel with a large nap to remove compounds because they offer a more aggressive bite but then switch over to microfiber for removing polishes and LSP's. Your good cotton towels should be clean and soft and worthing of working on paint in good condition or better.

Tatty Cotton Towels
Tatty Cotton Towels are cotton towels that are washed and dried but for whatever the reason, their quality is fallen off to far from what's acceptable to touch paint in good condition or better. They still have value however for mundane tasks like wiping excess tired dressing off the face of a tire, applying or wiping cleaners and dressings in the fenderwell area, applying or removing cleaners, dressings or cleaner/waxes in the trunk area or door jambs and engine compartments. They have value because they are absorbent, clean and ready to use and paid for. After some projects you might be better of discarding them versus trying to clean them well enough that they can be used again.
 
I don't know why, but since the first time I used a MF on my tires and wheel, I've never looked back....
 
Thanks for pointing that out, but plz read OP. I use MF everywhere except tires - that was my question.

Also, as I said in OP, I get it if you have old ones, why not right?

Did not know you could clean better with the MF though...might have to try that.

Thanks for the input!

It's not that they clean better, but that they're on hand and readily available.
As far as the scratch lexan/best MF reference, I was alluding to those like myself that hold on to MF's for years...and the day will come when your best, most expensive MF will have to find alternate duty.
 
I ran into a MF issue this weekend and have now decided i need MANY new MF's. I found that i couldnt tell which MFs were still good, and which werent.

The wife did the last wash load of towels, and threw them all in together, then folded them all and put them all up together.

I grabbed what i thought was a perfect MF for paint, only to find some pieces of dirt and what looked like tiny wood chips embedded in the fibers. Luckily i noticed before it hit the paint, but after that i found myself inspecting every MF i touched for a few minutes before moving on.

Im going to start using the Gary Dean wash method anyway, so i need a good bit of new MF's for that, ill just buy extra when i order them.

Shawn
 
I actually use neither. For real cleaning I've been using APC and a cyclo brush mounted on my DA -works a dream. I will on occasion use a microfiber for a not so dirty/well up-kept tire. I do not like terry's personally, as everyone I have used seems to shed, especially on tires.
 
It's not that they clean better, but that they're on hand and readily available.
As far as the scratch lexan/best MF reference, I was alluding to those like myself that hold on to MF's for years...and the day will come when your best, most expensive MF will have to find alternate duty.

Thanks for the clarification, I follow you now.
 
I actually use neither. For real cleaning I've been using APC and a cyclo brush mounted on my DA -works a dream. I will on occasion use a microfiber for a not so dirty/well up-kept tire. I do not like terry's personally, as everyone I have used seems to shed, especially on tires.

Oddly enough, for that I would recommend following the opposite of the MF rule of thumb for nap or weave...instead of an open nap (like with MF) I prefer closed nap with terrycloth - the closed nap seems to reduce shedding - and I do SCRUB those tires.

Also, I have read your article Mike and thanks for chiming in, I think thats where I got the idea in the first place. My confusion was with the rest of the posts I saw specifically recommending MF on tires; just didn't make sense to me (not that a lack of sense on my part isn't a common problem).
 
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