Sicoupe
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no I have not, to be honest, it scares me, because I'm afraid I will scratch the heck out of my car, I have always wanted to try it though, but can't get enough nerve to do it
Do you believe a vehicle can be too dirty for a waterless / rinse less / quick detail wash etc
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donb
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conthedon
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The first part is ridiculous lol, so in you opinion a rinseless product like ONR can only handle dust and water spots on a car? A quick detailer can handle that. For a product like ONR, thats limiting a product that can handle so much more..
Alek@DeepClean
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Since I was introduced to ONR, I hardly ever break out the hose any more. About the only time I'll go for the 2BM is when one of my customers has something caked on mud or something. I've never had a problem with slush or salt, it just doesn't "cake" like mud does.
davisautodetail
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Here in Montana, especially in the muddy spring time, no way I can do waterless. But, I did my wife's bug last night after doing a real wash a couple of weeks ago. It had some road oilish stuff, but safe enough to do waterless.
I'd say at least for 80% of the cars I'll do, water is my only choice, and a lot of times, pressure washer needed.
I'd say at least for 80% of the cars I'll do, water is my only choice, and a lot of times, pressure washer needed.
An interesting point of variation compared to the UK - pressure wash seems much more common with us. A lot of the time, the level of soiling is such that even a bucket wash would offer the a significantly elevated risk. A pressure wash process will remove much of this at which point you probably could use a reduced water process but I don't see the point since the hose is already out - quicker and easier to get the bucket and shampoo.
WRXINXS
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It might be about what a particular person is comfortable with. Maybe ONR can handle more but some (Including myself) would not feel comfortable. And I would not even use a QD on dust myself.
silverfox
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I have to tell you...I winter prepped my car with Duragloss 501/601, then applied 105 on top of that...and I have literally not touched the surface of my car with ANYTHING since just before mid December when I prepped it...except for the local touchless car wash which I use every 2 weeks or so during winter (salt, etc).
My car looks this morning like I just hand washed it, and tipped it with detail spray. Even my friend commented yesterday that "I see you waxed your car"...I told him...."yeah back in early December".
I am so sold on Duragloss protection (and I've tried a bunch of them over the years)...that I'm totally convinced that you don't need to touch the surface of your car all that much if its got something of substance protecting it.
My car looks this morning like I just hand washed it, and tipped it with detail spray. Even my friend commented yesterday that "I see you waxed your car"...I told him...."yeah back in early December".
I am so sold on Duragloss protection (and I've tried a bunch of them over the years)...that I'm totally convinced that you don't need to touch the surface of your car all that much if its got something of substance protecting it.
conthedon
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Its not a question of maybe, it works lol I can understand about not feeling comfortable with a QD since its very limited on what it can clean. And I can understand being cautious for heavy contamination with ONR but water spots n dust? Really? If its to that point of being uncomfortable with ONR why even use the product? as it would be clearly false advertising of what its suppose to do. I personally wouldnt support a company if the product didnt work...Or why not do a test area to get over your fears of the product?
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I always pressure wash / foam before touching the car with anything, including rinseless. The point is, its still faster for me than doing a 2BM. Also, since I'm always using a clean towel (GDWM) there is less chance of scratches.
Water pressure is the fastest way to remove the most dirt.
I am not a waterless fan at all really. the only time I will do a rinseless wash is if the car only has maybe a light rain storm hit it or something of the sort. I prefer the regular hose method as I feel it can get in and clean out dirt and dust in small crevices and such your mitt cant reach.
I really embraced hobbyist detailing about 3 years ago when I bought my first Mercedes (C-Class). Around that time ONR was talked about but I was super skeptical. I stuck with a 2BM wash with a good pre-rinse with the hose (a foam gun someday ) to flush off any big particles.
I recently picked up a new car -- a little white Mercedes SUV -- and long story short, when I placed my order yesterday I also ordered my first bottle of ONR. (I also ordered my fave shampoo -- P21S. Not totally ready to embrace the ONR)
I always wash the car weekly so my idea is probably doing ONR every other week. We don't drive much. I live in San Francisco and take transit most places. Probably drive 5-6k a year.
I've always been hugely skeptical of ONR and thought basically that it was a poor alternative during winter months. But it really seems many of you pro's use it and love it. Seeing all the people here saying "I use ONR on nearly ALL my customers cars" made me feel a lot better about it.
For me, the primary attraction is: 1) Save on the water bill which isn't cheap here. (I grew up in Ohio. Great Lakes access means very cheap water. Not here.) 2) Save time. I can easily spend 3 hours washing using the 2BM. 30 mins set-up and tear-down, 1 hour to clean the wheels, wheel wells and tires, 1 hour washing and drying, 30 mins to clean the glass. This is, of course, while listening to some music, drinking a few beers, etc. I'd love to save an hour on the wash so I can instead apply it to pet projects like deep cleaning the rims or engine bay or interior.
So I'll try it next week and if ONR really can save me time and money, I'm in.
) to flush off any big particles. I recently picked up a new car -- a little white Mercedes SUV -- and long story short, when I placed my order yesterday I also ordered my first bottle of ONR. (I also ordered my fave shampoo -- P21S. Not totally ready to embrace the ONR
)I always wash the car weekly so my idea is probably doing ONR every other week. We don't drive much. I live in San Francisco and take transit most places. Probably drive 5-6k a year.
I've always been hugely skeptical of ONR and thought basically that it was a poor alternative during winter months. But it really seems many of you pro's use it and love it. Seeing all the people here saying "I use ONR on nearly ALL my customers cars" made me feel a lot better about it.
For me, the primary attraction is: 1) Save on the water bill which isn't cheap here. (I grew up in Ohio. Great Lakes access means very cheap water. Not here.) 2) Save time. I can easily spend 3 hours washing using the 2BM. 30 mins set-up and tear-down, 1 hour to clean the wheels, wheel wells and tires, 1 hour washing and drying, 30 mins to clean the glass. This is, of course, while listening to some music, drinking a few beers, etc. I'd love to save an hour on the wash so I can instead apply it to pet projects like deep cleaning the rims or engine bay or interior.
So I'll try it next week and if ONR really can save me time and money, I'm in.
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Pressure washers reduce marring?
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First, it depends what "dirty" means to you. To ME, and this will not be the same for you or everyone else, "dirty" means anything that is caked on. IF dirt is beyond the point that I believe I cannot remove it with one gently wipe of waterless wash I wont use it. It takes tens of hours to properly polish a car, I wont risk that to save 30 mins.
What I will do is, spray down the vehicle with some waterless wash and then pressure wash the car, then follow with a application of waterless wash again and dry with detail spray.
This is how I use the following, again you and everyone will be different.
Detail spray - To DETAIL, or freshen up a "clean" vehicle.
Waterless wash - Dust, very mild soiling from everyday usage, smudges, bird bombs etc.
Rinseless wash - slightly more soiled then the above, but only with a pre spray of waterless, I never rinseless wash with out spraying down the section with waterless first.
2 Bucket - any kind of baked or caked on dirt, if you can still see the dirt after you sprayed it with waterless, (ex. when you spray down light dirt it looks like its just wet,) i'm giving it a 2 bucket wash.
