SunJoe SPX3000 longer hose?

Great detailed summary/issues post QuickCln--I appreciate posts like this. Been researching PW's for a while and will take into consideration.
 
Well, I can report that I attempted attaching the posted blue hawk 30' 1/4" diameter hose.

It didn't work right. Pressure is significantly less than with the original hose. I did attempt to use the quick disconnects and Teflon tape as well with very little leaking. It shouldn't have been enough to effect the output that greatly, as I've had leaks in the system before, but the loss of pressure is unacceptable, IMHO.


It's possible the hose that comes with the Sun Joe is actually 5/16", and the 1/4" hose was choking it off a bit. If that's the case, I wouldn't want to use a smaller hose for fear of putting undue back pressure on the pump. Given the thicker male mating end and how it fits into the receiver, I'd have to assume a longer hose would have to be purchased from Sun Joe directly.

Oh well, back to the drawing board.
 
A smaller diameter should increase the pressure, not decrease. See this thread: http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum...oss-pressure-my-new-pressure-washer-hose.html

I had some issues with the SunJoe and ended up with another Greenworks. I am using the 1600psi unit with the blue hawk 30' hose. It works beautifully. Also, there is no loss of pressure with the blue hawk. It's a great setup, doesn't take up much room, and is a pretty quiet machine.
 
CaveRacing said:
A smaller diameter should increase the pressure, not decrease. See this thread: http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum...oss-pressure-my-new-pressure-washer-hose.html
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You're correct on that all things equal, and I did look up on the snowjoe.com website (makers of the Sun Joe) and they list the hose as 1/4" as well. Don't know why exactly the pressure was less, but it was significant. On the stock hose, I can't comfortably hold my hand in the stream of water with the green fitting. With the blue hawk hose, I could bury the green fitting into my palm, I was quite surprised. The gun didn't have as much kick back or recoil either which is what initially tipped me off.

I wonder if the orifices in the actual metal couplers on the blue hawk hose are more narrow than the Sun Joe hose? That would account for the loss of pressure. I didn't look that closely at that.

Anyway, I did email Sun Joe about a longer hose, or if they'd tell me who manufactures the hose for them and perhaps I can get a longer hose directly from them.
 
Maybe try a quick disconnect on the pump and on the gun. Maybe that will fix the loss of pressurre? I never tried the flex 50' hose on its own without the QDs.

But i can say that I noticed only a slight change in pressure but not much at all.

I used two of these
Shop Blue Hawk Metric Quick Disconnect Socket Set at Lowes.com

and some of this
Shop Blue Hawk 43-ft Plumber's Tape at Lowes.com

a couple of o rings i had lying around (probably not necessary)

and of course this
http://www.amazon.com/Apache-100855..._sbs_86_2?ie=UTF8&refRID=1X96ENFXD0AV51FNSQ95
 
I misunderstood his comment is there a way to edit my reply? Bottom line is I didn't extend my hose, couldn't get it to work, but the other guy claims to have done it.
 
aim4squirrels said:
If I'm reading the last couple of posts correctly, you both are debating about coupling another hose to the existing Sun Joe hose, but not about using the stand alone 30' blue hawk hose as the only hose, correct?
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He claims to have extended the hose. I couldnt get it to work. I replied incorrectly because I misunderstood what he meant.

I think its easiest to just buy a hose of the length desired and disregard the SJ hose altogether, life will be much simpler that way.
 
QuickCln said:
I don't know how you were able to extend it. The hose you linked looks different to the one available at my local lowes. At one point I brought the SJ hose in to the store. And with the help of a store clerk tried every hose on the shelves with all manner of fittings and none of them worked... The nipple on the SJ hose was too large for the adapter.

But like I said, maybe my local lowes didn't carry the link you posted. All I am saying is it really wasn't worth the effort of extending the sj hose, its alot easier to buy a replacement hose and use it on its own, as you and i have done.
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QuickCln said:
He claims to have extended the hose. I couldnt get it to work. I replied incorrectly because I misunderstood what he meant.

I think its easiest to just buy a hose of the length desired and disregard the SJ hose altogether, life will be much simpler that way.
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I'll go home and take a picture of the hose extended. Currently, I have the hose adapter from the blue hawk connected to the original SunJoe hose. All I have to do is connect the blue hawk hose to the other end of the adapter and I have it extended. The only thing I won't be able to do is connect a quick disconnect to the other end of the SJ hose. I will either have to connect that end to the wand or the pressure washer unit.
aim4squirrels said:
So let me ask a clarifying question, because I got confused in reading the last page of replies:

Does the blue hawk 30' hose connect to the main unit and spray gun without any adapters?

I know someone stated they chose to use quick disconnects, but are those necessary? If they are, please list the quick disconnects at Lowe's that you purchased. 10' more is exactly what I need to position the Sun Joe at the front or back of my car and not have to move the unit to reach everywhere I need it to go.

If I'm reading the last couple of posts correctly, you both are debating about coupling another hose to the existing Sun Joe hose, but not about using the stand alone 30' blue hawk hose as the only hose, correct?
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Blue Hawk hose can connect to the wand and unit itself. Just like the original hose. The quick disconnect is optional. The QD is more for convenience for those who want easy storage rather than unscrewing it every time.

I'll take a picture of my set up as well. Its similar to those who have shown their SPX3000 setup.

QD on the wand and on the unit - Shop Blue Hawk Quick Disconnect Plug and Female Metric at Lowes.com
QD on both ends of the hose - Shop Blue Hawk Quick Disconnect Socket Male Metric at Lowes.com

I'm also using a quick connect for the water hose to the unit - Melnor Quick Connect Kit-237-337 - The Home Depot
 
Well it's been a few months with many washes done from the spx3000 and the hose mentioned earlier in the thread.

Everything works like new. I even left the unit outside during a heavy down pour and it still works great. I no longer use it with a water softener, but have changed to a DI unit CRsporless.

I use two y valves and short washer machine hoses to connect spx3000 to the DI unit.

http://www.amazon.com/Backyard-Gard...e=UTF8&qid=1439336830&sr=8-1&keywords=y+valve

http://www.amazon.com/Certified-App...439336848&sr=8-1&keywords=washer+machine+hose

You can set it up so that you can switch between hard water and DI water at will.

The idea is to use hard water most of the wash, but finish with a spotfree DI rinse, because DI resin is expensive. Works great. If anyone is considering this, its an awesome car wash method.

Saves you a ton of time washing cars.
 
I read as much as I could but I need help.

I want to buy the Sun Joe 3000. I also what to get the foam cannon from AGO but I do not know what end connector I need as AGO does not list the Sun Joe. Can someone help out with that info before I purchase the Sun Joe?
 
A product page would have been nice. Idk which cannon you are talking about.

I use the MTM Hydro Foam cannon
Amazon.com: Professional Foam Lance Adjustable with 32 oz. Bottle: Health & Personal Care

Not sure if this is the same carried here, but it comes with the propper adapter to fit on the end of the sunjoe. The sunjoe uses a standard quick disconnect wand, so if the Cannon doesn't work with it, it's kind of the foam canons fault.

You will have to switch the adapter on the end of the foam cannon, I recommend a good 1 hr with two vicegrips and a lot of patience. But once the proper sized adapter is screwed on, youre good to go! (the adapter that you need is the smallest silver one in the picture of the amazon product page)
 
CaveRacing said:
A smaller diameter should increase the pressure, not decrease. See this thread: http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum...oss-pressure-my-new-pressure-washer-hose.html

I had some issues with the SunJoe and ended up with another Greenworks. I am using the 1600psi unit with the blue hawk 30' hose. It works beautifully. Also, there is no loss of pressure with the blue hawk. It's a great setup, doesn't take up much room, and is a pretty quiet machine.
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Would you happen to have a pic of how you attached the hose to the reel on your greenworks?

I'm in the process of buying a longer hose for for my 1700 psi powerworks and just trying to get an idea of what fittings I need to buy. Thanks
 
snellvilleauto said:
This is what i have right now.
This hoses...
NorthStar Nonmarking Pressure Washer Hose — 50ft.L, Model# 989401980 | Pressure Washer Hoses| Northern Tool + Equipment
You'll need 2 of these...one to connect to the PW and one to the wand
NorthStar Ball-Type Pressure Washer Quick Coupler Nipple — 22mm Inlet Size, 4000 PSI, Model# ND10037P | Pressure Washer Quick Couplers| Northern Tool + Equipment
Also 2 of these to connect to the hose ends.. NorthStar Pressure Washer Quick Coupler — 3/8in. Inlet Size, 4000 PSI, Model# ND10003P | Pressure Washer Quick Couplers| Northern Tool + Equipment

My set up is lot more elaborate :) I'll try to take pic
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Hello Snellvilleauto,

so I purchased everything here for my new SunJoe pressure washer and I have run into a problem. The two M22 to 3/8" coupling that came in from northern tool are the wrong size. They are M22/14mm not M22/15mm which is to loose.

has anyone else had this same problem??
 
With the sunjoe you cant just connect any 1/4 22mm hose and they use a quick connect hose system thats different in size. Their hose works with their gun so you cant just swap out guns. Theres a wierd filter in the inlet side so you can use quick connects unless you chop it off.

With greenworks you can use any 22mm hose, any gun with 22mm fitting. Its more universal.
 
Yg1829,
Thank you, I watched that video also.

The question I posted was really for Snellvillauto as he recommended certain parts from northern tool which I purchased but when I receive everything yesterday I went to go put the new items together but when I looked at the M22 to 3/8 coupling I noticed that the M22 fitting looked like a M22/14mm fitting not a M22/15 fitting. When I tried to install the fitting my assumption was correct.

So I ordered two new fittings from eBay yesterday that are M22/15 with a 3/8 " female NPT thread on the other end so I can install a 3/8" coupling. To work with my 3/8" 3/8" quick disconnects that I installed on both ends of my hose.

I think I will do a detailed list of everything when I am done so I can share it with everyone who is looking to purchase a SunJoe SPX3000 and install a longer hose and short gun


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Killerheroin said:
Yg1829,
Thank you, I watched that video also.

The question I posted was really for Snellvillauto as he recommended certain parts from northern tool which I purchased but when I receive everything yesterday I went to go put the new items together but when I looked at the M22 to 3/8 coupling I noticed that the M22 fitting looked like a M22/14mm fitting not a M22/15 fitting. When I tried to install the fitting my assumption was correct.

So I ordered two new fittings from eBay yesterday that are M22/15 with a 3/8 " female NPT thread on the other end so I can install a 3/8" coupling. To work with my 3/8" 3/8" quick disconnects that I installed on both ends of my hose.

I think I will do a detailed list of everything when I am done so I can share it with everyone who is looking to purchase a SunJoe SPX3000 and install a longer hose and short gun


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You're welcome bud.

Didn't mean to step on your post to Snellvillauto. There's been so much talk about the sun joe lately I figured I would post that video for everyone.

That would be cool if you made a list. Hope you get it sorted out!

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Hey yg1829,

No problem it had been a while since Snellvillauto posted about this as his post regarding parts was posted on page one so I may or may not get a response which is understandable.

I will atleast post what I have learned so far about the SPX3000

https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/812FgeL8XRL._SX522_.jpg

1) Easy to setup, took me about 20min in total from unboxing to getting everything put together.

2) Unit out of the box work well

3) MTM Foam Canon Attached easily to the standard SunJoe Wand using a 1/4" quick disconnect.

4) Matt from Obsessed Garage as well as allot of other people on this forum and other forums are correct about a few things that become annoying very quickly:
- Pressure Washer Hose is way to short that came with the unit unless you feel like dragging the pressure washer everywhere.
- Installing the MTM Foam Cannon on the front of the long wand is manageable but very unstable
- the stupid M22/15mm fitting that they use on the machine are extremely stupid. there is no reason for this at all SunJoe could have used M22/14 fittings which almost every manufacturer uses (note who used M22 fittings) ( I will be writing a long letter to SunJoe about this as this is completely stupid)

5) Action Plan Going forward:
- Swap out SunJoe hose with Norther Tools's (NorthStar Nonmarking Pressure Washer Hose — 4000 PSI, 50ft. x 3/8in., Model# 989401980)
- Install NorthStar Pressure Washer Quick Coupler — 3/8in. Female, 4000 PSI, Brass, Model# ND10003P on Both ends of hose
- Install M22 Female 15mm Twist Connect x 3\8 NPT Female (Non Standard M22 Connector) - EBay Item onto SunJoe Wand & Pressure washer along with 3/8" Coupler
- Use MTM Hydro M407 Gun (3/8" couple on inlet port with mosmatic swivel) and 1/4" quick disconnect on outlet port. Purchased all of these items on Amazon along with the MTM foam Cannon as a bundle had to purchase the mosmatic swivel seperate.
 
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