So this followed me home....

Klasse Act said:
I wish they were +1
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If it were my choice I'd actually go down a size in diameter from 18" to 17" and widen them from 7.5 to 8.

This would give you a lighter wheel with better/cheaper tire choices and the ability to run 225 or even 235 width tires for a larger contact patch. Visually the differences would be minor, if noticeable at all.

The only real reason I can see to keep the 18's on a car this light would be if you intend to track the brains out of this car and upgrade to a BBK.

At some point I'm going to need a second set of wheels. I'll probably keep these for three-season use and go smaller/wider for my autocross/lots of fun set up.



dennis b said:
Really nice car. When they first came out I was like Meh. But not only have they fixed the dip in torque around 3500 rpm's they actually put real real tires on it. Michelin PS4. I want one. Best of luck with it.
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I test drove an FR-S at the same time I stumbled across this car (which was completely unlisted ANYWHERE). IMO the differences between the Gen 1 and Gen 2 cars are far more than the media lets on.

While the chassis might be simple upgrade to make it stiffer, everything is very different. The engine (obviously), clutch action, shift action, and interior are a huge improvement over the previous gen. The ride seems a bit better too. It's just as stiff with no real body motion and fantastic cornering, but it doesn't crash over imperfections in the road like the old one. This one just bounces sharply.

Something else few people mention is the engine sounds very different (even without the stupid sound maker), and it's WAY smoother in operation. Compared to my previous German cars the old FRS felt like I was driving a go-cart with a tractor engine. Not very pleasant.
 
Klasse Act said:
They put cheap tires on it cause they knew people were gonna modify them anyway but I'd be happy as hell to see those on there

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Nah, they put low grip tires on so people could drift. That was this cars claim to fame up till now. Glad they put PS4 on now. I'd rather pull G's on back roads rather than drift.
 
Just so everyone is tracking.

The base model on both twins still comes with the 17" wheels and the crappy Primacy tires as the previous gen. The upper model, like mine, comes with the 18" wheels and the PS4s.

Supposedly the GR86 suspension is still slightly different to make it a little more oversteer prone, while Subaru is set them up to be more neutral.
 
dennis b said:
Nah, they put low grip tires on so people could drift. That was this cars claim to fame up till now. Glad they put PS4 on now. I'd rather pull G's on back roads rather than drift.
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I was actually going to mention that honestly cause those tires are the same ones they put on the prius

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I didn't even realize those were 18" wheels on there

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Well, will ya look at that...as part of the Subaru Build & Price you can add a factory option for a dog harness. Never seen that before...actually, a few pet related options.

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They are big into pets and supporting animal shelters these days. There were signs about the programs they support at the corporate level all over the dealership.

Based on the size of the back seats it would be a struggle to get a dog the size of the one pictured back there. It's strictly the domain of Dachshunds, Pugs, and Chihuahuas
 
[mention]Desertnate [/mention]

Greetings!

Curious if you still have the BRZ and if so, thoughts on your now ‘long term’ experience with it?

Went and test drove a tS model today, seems like a hoot from my albeit limited time with it. Pondering getting outta the German car rat race and BRZ seems like nice, fun car.

Thanks for any thoughts you may have!


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Reports from people I know who own say it’s fun to drive. The new Z is also a nice little pocket rocket. Little more HP.

The 400hp in that thing is insane with its 55/45 weight distribution. For 40k (starting) it’s a fun car.


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Coatingsarecrack said:
Reports from people I know who own say it’s fun to drive. The new Z is also a nice little pocket rocket. Little more HP.

The 400hp in that thing is insane with its 55/45 weight distribution. For 40k (starting) it’s a fun car.


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I'm going to go test drive one of those tonite. The BRZ appeals because of its relative simplicity and lack of interior 'tacked on' screens. Has some actual switchwork/controls! The Z looks somewhat similar and agreed, for around $40k for 400hp, definitely merits a look.

I'm a little wary of 400hp though...with the Cayman it would truly take something amazingly stupid to hurt myself in it. On the rare times I drive the Corvette I'm usually thinking "If I drove this every day I'd end up in a ditch"; rear wheel drive, excessive HP & torque just begs to be abused. With only 220 or so HP, the BRZ can only get a limited amount of stupid. "Know thyself" and all of that :lol:

And after yearly $500 oil changes with the Cayman (and then some), the appeal of a $50 at-home oil change in the BRZ taking about 15 minutes is quite appealing. The BRZ is simple, guessing the Nissan Z will be a little less so. I'm looking for simple at this point (and good looking; staring at a car in the garage is still a favorite pastime) I think the BRZ looks better than the Z too...curvier.

We shall see...some folks dread car shopping and the dealer experience; I find it quite entertaining actually. If things get irritating, I just get up and leave.
 
I’ve always wanted to drive a BRZ, GT 86 or FR-S but never got the chance to except for on my Gran Turismo racing rig at home. If it’s anything like on the game, it’s quite satisfying to fling it into a corner.
 
Way back when I was searching for my FJ, I sat in an 86 at a Toyota dealership, I was surprised at how comfortable it was, and at how easily I fitted. I do like the idea of having weekend fun car, and I would love a V8 again, but I also appreciate that it's more fun driving a slow car fast than a fast car slow. I'm not saying that the BRZ/86 is slow, but it's limits are much more accessible in everyday driving.
 
Big Dave said:
Way back when I was searching for my FJ, I sat in an 86 at a Toyota dealership, I was surprised at how comfortable it was, and at how easily I fitted. I do like the idea of having weekend fun car, and I would love a V8 again, but I also appreciate that it's more fun driving a slow car fast than a fast car slow. I'm not saying that the BRZ/86 is slow, but it's limits are much more accessible in everyday driving.
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BudgetPlan1 said:
The BRZ is simple, guessing the Nissan Z will be a little less so. I'm looking for simple at this point (and good looking; staring at a car in the garage is still a favorite pastime) I think the BRZ looks better than the Z too...curvier.
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Drove a 6-speed Nissan Z last night; more of a 'Grand Tour' deal than a toss-about car. Drove 'big' which I guess can be expected given it's close to 3500lb curb weight (more than our 2109 Corvette). 400hp was nice but after driving a Cayman for 6 years, the tossability is more entertaining than brute force. Shifter/transmission seemed a bit nicer than in the BRZ but at 2900lbs give or take, the BRZ seems like it will be more to my preferences overall. BRZ is certainly a little less refined all around than the Z w/ regards to fit and finish but that's OK. Both cars had plenty of room for my lanky, 6' 2" frame.

Not sure how this will all play out. :lol:
 
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