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8oz/gal according to my new bottle.

Im almost out of Wheel Brightener and although its crazy effective its simply too dangerous to keep around my house. I need something with a little more muscle than my go-to ONR QD for when I run into really dirty wheels. Anything containing ammonium bifluoride is out, Im looking at Surf City...

:whs: ONR is one of (if not top dog) the best car care products out there, no question! FWIW I find using the wash dilution as a QD is a litttle on the light side for my taste.

If you willing to potentialy put your health at risk, you could pick up some Meguiar's Wheel Brightener. At 4:1 its a true spray on, hose off wheel cleaner for all but the dirtiest of wheels.

OMG! did you get hit by a train :eek: I hope you didnt have anyone in the passenger seat. whats the vibration like on the Flex? I retired my PC because it makes my hands go compleatly numb after only a few minuts, I worry about getting permanet nerve damage.

for the paint!? are you high? :eek: :D Ill take a look at the CWG. how about NXT? does it fit the bill? I always use ONR for my stuff but when I work on other peoples vehicles I like to use a traditional wash for the initial cleaning.

PPC Crud Remover, its like Castol Super Clean on crack! Its the most powerfull cleaner I have ever used. It has sodium hydroxide in it so it must be good :righton:

whats the best soap, other than an APC or dish soap for very dirty vehicles?

I need some answers please! to the top!

:iagree:, 5K miles/6 months is not a problem for ANY SM rated motor oil when coupled with a good quality filter.

is one significantly denser than the other?

I was just gonna start a thread on this! Does Poli-seal work well in place of KAIO for regular cleaning? My wind shield is full of pits (the car is 12 years old) whats the best product to help deal with this? Lastly, I read Duragloss glass polish is good, any opinions on this stuff?

Which is more usefull for general paint correction and some glass polishing? I try to use a rotary when possible but I need some spot buffs in my arsenal. It will be used with eather M105 or OPII.

go return it. What exactly are you trying to do/get from this stuff?

Indeed :( . Thanks for the help folks, I guess I'll just use up this bottle and compair it to the new stuff myself. I was under the impression that new 105 blew the old stuff out of the water, but I guess thats not the case.

Sorry, I know the M105 horse has been beat to death over and over. when used with a rotary or by hand, it is there a significant practicle difference between the new formula and the new one (DA approved) I just ordered a quart of it from my local paets store and when it arived it was the old...

Well I guess I dont know if I like it :D The only other product I have used that is in a similar class was Meguiar's #80, OPII is lightyears ahead of that. Im currious about M205 because I can get it localy, and I heard it has a little more cut than OPII but doesnt leave behind the super clear...

Should I get more OPII or try M205?, its mostly for use on my own vehicles and will be used with a rotary.

I have had very good luck with ONR but I have read allot of good things about DP's new rinseless wash and gloss. Those of you that have used both, should I send back my unused 32 oz bottle of ONR to try this stuff, or is it not that big of a difference?

Any one had good results with this combo? I know NXT has a slight cleaning ability, Im going to put the NXT on with a PC and a LC CCS red pad.