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Maybe it's time to start an M105 thread? BTW, if M105 finishes ready for wax, you can say bye-bye to the rest of their polishes. They wouldn't be needed, right? So, I doubt they would admit it actually finishes ready for wax even if it does, because it would be marketing suicide.

I've been there and it's harder to see when you're doing it...but it doesn't look good for either party, regardless of who's right. I find myself not even reading 'those' posts anymore...just hopping to the ones that are on-topic.

Take it to PM's gentleman...

A rotary is the most effective correction tool. However, with increased effectiveness comes additional paint removal and risk. I don't know that any polish is 'designed' for a particular tool. The tools vary in function, risk and effectiveness. I think all polishes are going to be most...

It works great with the Flex. Use your favorite cutting and finishing pads. The Flex is the next best thing to a rotary, as far as correction goes (IMHO).

Take pix and video, please!

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I'm glad I'm not feeding him either! LOL

Five sprays? Did I miss something? :confused:

^ :offtopic: Since we all seem to like controversy, how about that SystemOne wax? :righton:

I'm not only saying they claim it, I've seen it done...except it depends on how you define 'one pass'. If that means one stroke left to right or top to bottom, no, but if that means one application of polish and a few passes, yes. Basically, what you see in the following video except with...

Like I already said, I would love to see a finishing polish go up against SystemOne at detail fest on a black hood in direct sunlight (maybe with a 160°F surface temp)...be it 500 grit scratches or 2000 grit scratches... Can your polish do that? I'm not saying it can't, but I'm not aware of a...

Good call mod. I think the debate will continue until *at least* Detail Fest. I won't be there, but I would love to see the naysayers with their prep sol and their finishing polishes go up against SystemOne. I mean really, the proof's in the pudding. Either the stuff does what it's...

Remind of us that information...which someone said was a 'ton'. - Ferrari's have ceramic clears (they do, by the way, so that's not misinformation) - Diminishing abrasives are not engineered (questionable, but for the sake of argument, let's say this is valid misinformation) - The diagram...

So have Jason use 105 on SystemOne's hood at Detail Fest and wipe down his area and Tom's area with prep sol when they're done...

Right, but SystemOne has struck out without you trying it.

LOL No, but I still would love to see a little competition...hopefully FRIENDLY competition.

"Its great marketing and hype, but the reality is that there are many polishes that will do the same thing." Really? I don't know of any that do everything SYSTEM ONE claims to do. Bring the polishes you listed to detail fest and show us how they all remove 500 grit scratches and leave a...

I think you are making a lot of assumptions and drawing conclusions based on speculation ("it must have been soft paint" and "For this abrasive to be able to finish out nice on most paints, it has to be very fine and offer little cut"). Why can't it do what it claims to do? Why not try the...

This guy took out 500 grit scratches at NACE in Las Vegas last October with this same setup...how much more aggressive of a cut do you need?