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I use Dodo Juice Supernatural wash Sponge with all my rinse less washes (ONR, HFE, UWW, DGRW, DJ LOE).

I just recalled "Richy" here who is a Canadian detailer and an ardent fan of using Duragloss 105+Collinite 845. I have a similar combination in mind (DG105+Dodo Juice Supernatural Hybrid). I'd like to hear from you Richy.

Been reading up here a lot. There seems to be no consensus as some people seems to think the more layers of waxes/sealants you have, the better. While others feel products can't or shouldn't be layered. I was thinking of doing a complete correction on my car and then sealing it with...

Are the Pro range waxes very different from Supernatural Hybrid? I understand that Pro waxes will have color & scent while the Hybrid won't. But other than that, aren't both of them Hybrid waxes?

Yes, but only with true Nuba like Victoria Wax Concours Red wax. Not with solvent based waxes like Collinite. Anything from Dodo Juice should be fine too.

Thanks. I would really like to know about CG HFE though.

While I have a similar line of thought, I think I read somewhere that the new Meg's D114 Rinse Free Express wash has absolutely no polymers. I found the MSDS but not being a chemist is always a detriment. http://www.meguiars.co.uk/attach/downloads/d114_msds.pdf Again, Meg's product is not...

Thanks. By that logic, ONR wash and wax should work well with waxes as well. But then you could argue that the WAX in ONR W&W would not be the same as your $100 boutique wax. Unfortunately, Pinnacle or any AG brands are not available in my country.

Getting tired of how ONR alters the look and behavior of my waxes so picked up a bottle of CG HFE. Hoping it doesn't have any polymers but can't find the MSDS on Google at all. Anybody? Damn those water restrictions.

In another thread, somebody just posted that ONR killed their C845 completely. Guess it's not what it's hyped up to be.

So all shampoos degrade waxes and this is not limited to ONR?

What I don't understand is how does ONR not deteriorate the performance of Optimum Car Wax or Opti Seal but degrades something bullet proof like Collinite 845? At the rate this discussion is going, it looks like if you must use ONR; stick to their waxes/sealants as they play well together. I...

Duragloss 105 - As durable as it gets this side of coatings Sonax Polymer Netshield - Hates water more than anybody else on this planet. Again, this side of coatings.

Yes it does leave behind a lot. Not wax though.

ONR for me. UWW is sitting gathering dust in my closet.

Thanks Mike. How do you find Meg's waxes in comparison to what's out there now (Dodo Juice, Victoria wax, Bouncers, Pinnacle, Blackfire etc.)

Only wax? Wow. I need more information on this.

If you haven't already paid for ZAIO, do consider DG 501.

All forums have their pros and cons. People are biased everywhere. Some of them have the advantage of having Mike to cut through the clutter.