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    Having trouble with hard black paint

    Just did another test spot but with the g8 3in + boss yellow pad in speed 6. Once with menzerna and once with Koch chemie. This produced similar results with g9 + 6in rupes yellow on speed 4. Performed same 2x circular motion to wipe off initial residue. Zero marring. Once I perform vertical...
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    Having trouble with hard black paint

    That make sense, I've been running it on speed 4 during my test yesterday. Ill ramp it up next time I test later. Also I have a picture of the Coating vs my test spot with MF + cutmax followed up Orange + Medium cut polish. Very shocked on how hazy the coating looked after 5months. Ive found...
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    Having trouble with hard black paint

    I thought this too. That’s why I used a MF pad + cutmax. I can’t imagine going anymore aggressive than this. While it got rid of all the scratches/marring, it did leave a foggy finish which is what I heard is normal when running a MF pad. That’s when I would follow up with a orange or yellow pad...
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    Having trouble with hard black paint

    That make sense. Also handy to have I guess. Also would you say I need to crank up the g8 to achieve same results in smaller spots? For example, my g9 was in speed 4 with the yellow rupes. If I was on the g8 working on tighter spots, would I need to crank it up to 6?
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    Having trouble with hard black paint

    I hear you on that. I guess I can use the 6in pads for even larger surfaces so they’re not collecting dust. That way I can buy maybe a few less 5in pads.
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    Having trouble with hard black paint

    They should arrive today with Amazon same day shipping. However, I did do the same wipe off technique previously to test marring. Vertical wipes, however I didn’t necessarily test the “2x light circular motion.” I’ll do few more test before commiting to new pads. I currently have 3x yellow...
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    Having trouble with hard black paint

    Just took the g9 out today. Used it with a yellow rupes and medium cut polish. I also changed my technique to only focus on vertical passes and no horizontal. I also did wipe off in 2x light circular motion passes. Then I did Gyeon prep wipe in only vertical wipes. I did start noticing very...
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    Having trouble with hard black paint

    Interesting. I do have a rupes yellow on my g9. I’ll through that on along with a medium cut cream such as the Koch chemie to see if that will do anything. Will also try that product in the g9 + orange.
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    Having trouble with hard black paint

    I did the hard line test and can clearly see the old ceramic coat off. I could also feel the bare clear coat as it’s much less slick compared to the coating. To my surprise, the CSL actually fogged up a lot under a detailers light compared to the raw clear coat. Pads were all brand new when...
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    Having trouble with hard black paint

    I use Gyeon prep as my IPA wipe. I dont think its the products im thinking its maybe my technique.. ill try what Guz said about changing speeds and arm. By chance do the imperfections look like it can be caused by "dry buffing"? I've been googling possibilities and ran into that topic. Looking...
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    Having trouble with hard black paint

    I've always thought you go slower machine speed with compound and faster for polish. As for arm speed, I typically go slower for compounding and a bit faster for polishing. But i'll definitely switch those up tomorrow. Pressure thumb mean im just using the strength of my thumb to push down on...
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    Having trouble with hard black paint

    So are you saying when the G8 stalls, it creates those marring? Again, I have the G9, im only using the G8 to test pad/product combo and is not my plan to correct the entire panel. Tomorrow ill bring out the G9 with a 6in MF to see results but im doubtful it'll do anything since ive used the...
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    Having trouble with hard black paint

    Yeah its definitely a head scratcher. All the creams/pads I have should be able to finish down nicely but no luck
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    Having trouble with hard black paint

    I own a G9 as well, but Im using the G8 just to do test spots since I have more variety of pads but once I find the proper pad combo, ill buy them for my G9. During my first attempt mentioned earlier, it was done with the G9 with Meg ultimate + orange pad with same results.
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    Having trouble with hard black paint

    id say 45-50 degree in my garage. Full strip wash + clay bar. Note: Car was ceramic coated with CSL 5 months ago with the same strip wash + clay bar process and I ran into the same issues as now. Back then I only had megs ultimate and orange pad and got the same results before giving up and...
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    Having trouble with hard black paint

    Just added the markers. Pad is 100% spinning. Same results. I do notice that the swirls/imperfections always change. These are not the initial imperfections as all initial swirls were removed. It seems like every time I perform a pass the imperfections change. Initial wipe off seems good, but...
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    Having trouble with hard black paint

    From what I can tell, I can see it spinning. Ive done this on my g9 with a 6in pad with similar results
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    Having trouble with hard black paint

    Hello All, I’m doing a few test spots on my 2019 Audi and I’m having a hard time finishing it. Machine used: g9/g8 Pads used: Urofiber 50/50, griots garage boss (mf, orange, yellow) Products used: sonax cutmax, Koch chemie final cut ( equivalent to sonax perfect finish ), menzerna 3800...
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    Advice on Removing Gtechniq CSL on Audi

    Got it! I don’t have the PF anymore but I did come by some Koch chemie fine cut and menzerna 3800 so I’ll give those a few passes before jumping to cutmax. I only have boss mf, yellow, orange, rupes yellow and Urofiber pads atm so I’ll try to team those up before investing in some wool.
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    Advice on Removing Gtechniq CSL on Audi

    If the cutmax + urofiber combo works, will it be "too aggressive" and remove too much clear or would it be safe since the Audi paint is on the harder side. Reason why im asking is because I already have the two products. However, if the cutmax is overkill for the job, im willing to purchase a...
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