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I haven't used it. I probably should try it and use Primus more as a pre-wash but being it does both I figured I'd try it that way for a bit. I don't mind a stronger cleaning shampoo. I don't have much protection the car right now anyway. Once I re-coat I will move back to something a bit...

About 4.4oz. They recommend a 100:1 dilution.

I've been using Primus for pre-wash/bucket/wheels. It's a great product.

It's definitely possible that OPT makes GG RW. I just know Griot's is pretty proud of making their own formulations.

I'd be surprised to some degree if Optimum made Griot's RW. I asked Griot's a few years ago about this and they said their benchmark was ONR but it was formulated by them. Griot's likes to formulate in-house. I don't like RW'ing all that much but when I do I use multiple towels so dirt...

Yvan is more of a salesman than expert.

Looks like they have a new Ceramic Spray Sealant - Platinum, as well as several other auto products coming to the market. https://cerakoteceramics.com/high-foam-vehicle-shampoo-ph-neutral/?srsltid=AfmBOoooYR0QYDAS-50graoNsgBpnAmQZ2yzEoznku96WAd6fg1PzTGP

He deleted one of my comments as well. I basically said the same thing.

I think he is a chemist, but I can't be 100% sure. I agree, he's a bit over the top with his "wear gloves" recommendations. Another thing I should have included was that its the end formulation that matters. The sum of all parts. He is singling out specific components and saying xyz is bad...

It is interesting though when actual chemists talk about detailing products. There was a guy on here who was great. He'd cut through the BS and hype. Basically the above RW isn't a RW. It's a soap with some pretty below average ingredients and water. What a joke. I mean if this many people...

Gentlemen, Ech20 is a REAL MAN'S PRODUCT. Predates all these weak, dinky watery, polymer version 2.3454 RW's. Just kidding lol. I ordered another bottle. It's still one of my favorites.

Could be. Last pic is the one on driver's side door. Car is silver metallic gray. I think I picked something up off the road.

I was able to get a quick wash in today and after I dried the car I noticed these spots. They're flat. I can’t imagine it’s from BH. I think something from road ended up on paint. Looks like permanent stains though. Hopefully polish/clay bar will remove them.

It really is pretty stout for what it is. As a QD even more so.

Works as a QD 1:50. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Love Descale. Cleans very well for me. Lift was meh. Reset is still my favorite shampoo.

They said ONR was their benchmark for the original. This is something most likely made in-house.

Griot's 3 in 1 holding on as usual. Still one of the best, if not the best, spray Sio2 sealants on the market. Could be a bit better with the hydrophobics, but maybe that's why it lasts so long..?