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I think I do. The Ech20 is very slick from the added lubrication so it glides across the glass very easy. I spray it liberally on the glass at 1:25-30. I've never used dedicated glass cleaners. I often use Gyeon ID which also works well. It's more grabby though than Ech20.

Thanks. No interest in adding steps. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

More comparable to Preludio maybe?

Cleaned windows this morning with Ech20 at 1:30’ish. It’s still my favorite. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

I thought of trying Adam's at one time. Their Graphene Spray Coating, Hoseless Wash, Rubber/Tire Cleaner and Shampoo seem decent. Their Strip Wash is now an acidic wash and gets good reviews.

So true. While I haven't used those two yet, when I come back to using Ech20 I always love it.

Used Ech20 today. Still one of my favorite.

chilly for Alaska, I definitely think a great pre-wash + RW is ideal. Some like using Multi X for a pre-wash. I know Brian from Apex recommended it. A lot of options to drive us all crazy LOL.

I think it would work and not a bad idea at all.

lol i know this thread took a different route. I should have started a pre-wash thread.

Just did a wash with Primus 2.0. I did a 1:50 pre-wash and it worked great. Truck wasn't super dirty, so I can't say yet how well it cleans. What surprised me the most was the lubrication from the bucket wash. Incredible lubrication at 1:100. Very impressed. Rinses very clean and cleans...

mmm that looks good.

They increased the cleaning power of Primus 2.0 and added lubrication to make it a bucket wash. The pH is 11 (I believe per that video I linked) which I think is perfect. Usually anything over 12 you can potentially start to degrade your LSP. So 11 is kind of a sweet spot IMO. Plus it's...

It has arrived. I will have my espresso first then wash. LOL Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

Thanks for the feedback this is what I'm looking for. As I said before, using Primus 2.0 for pre-wash, wheels and bucket wash followed up with Idrosave which has protection may be a winning combination.

Primus 2.0 comes today so I'll be trying it out tonight or tomorrow.

That's the way to do it. :xyxthumbs: I sometimes try things just to try them.

Good point. I haven't read much about Preludio. That's what got me interested in Idrosave and Primus 2.0. I can use Primus 2.0 for bucket wash, wheel cleaner and prewash just by varying the dilution. One product will cover all that. After washing, I could go over the car real quick with...

I ran out of Descale/Reset. I was going to maybe try Multi X and use that in conjunction with Reset but opted for Labo Primus 2.0 being it's such a versatile product. So I'm going to try/test this over the next month or so and if I like it I'll get the Idrosave next.

Yeah it's a liquid polymer wax. I haven't used it. It should last a month or two.