3 months into my winter treatment: sonus Ion.

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Today was a warm day compared to the -15F we had for most of the week here in Ottawa, so I decided to take out the propane heaters and wash the cars in my winter car shelter.

3 months ago I applied CQ Uk to my car, and Sonus Ion to the wifes car.

the CQ Uk is still beading like the first day, but the Sonus Ion seems to be all gone on all panels!

I really wanted to test the durability of this product since it sounded so promising. I washed the car maybe 6 times since it was applied, and no toppers were applied, normal dilution of soap was used (ultima), and no beading or sheeting anymore. At the last wash, a couple of weeks ago, I could see it was on the way out, but I'm still kind of dissapointed!

I did my usual prep, used a coating prep polish, applied product per directions, than let it dry for an hour before removing. I usually get 6 months with menzerna powerlock, and even more with wolfgang paint sealant on that car. Ion seems like a dud to me if it doesn't even last a quarter of the time it's supossed to last. Moral of the story, if you find something that works, stick with it!
 
wow, that's a shame :( . I was thinking about purchasing some sonus ion coating too...
 
That does suck. I have an unopened bottle on my shelf. How were the looks of it though?
 
i just thought of something after reading the description of that product.

could it be that road treatment chemicals screw with the ionic bond this product claims to use and cause it to release from the surface?

before Kyle Allen comes in and asks me for some sort of proof of the theory behind my hypothesis (lol), i do not have anything for ya, pal!
 
builthatch said:
i just thought of something after reading the description of that product.

could it be that road treatment chemicals screw with the ionic bond this product claims to use and cause it to release from the surface?
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Purely ionic bonding cannot exist. :D


Bob
 
builthatch said:
i just thought of something after reading the description of that product.

could it be that road treatment chemicals screw with the ionic bond this product claims to use and cause it to release from the surface?

before Kyle Allen comes in and asks me for some sort of proof of the theory behind my hypothesis (lol), i do not have anything for ya, pal!
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they use a lot of road salt here, so I see a lot of products that start to fail on the front clip, at the bottom of the doors and around fenders, where most of the salt ends up. this one failed everywhere at the same time, maybe the extremely cold temperature we had a week ago killed it off!
 
I have a bottle of this stuff and have yet to use it. I think it's a little screwy they call it a coating, obviously it's a sealant. It's funny you mentioned it lasted 3 mos - because that is exactly how long the Sonüs dude tools me it would last at last year's Detail Fest.

Then somehow when the copy came about, it's was saying it would last a year.
 
swanicyouth said:
I have a bottle of this stuff and have yet to use it. I think it's a little screwy they call it a coating, obviously it's a sealant. It's funny you mentioned it lasted 3 mos - because that is exactly how long the Sonüs dude tools me it would last at last year's Detail Fest.

Then somehow when the copy came about, it's was saying it would last a year.
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guess a marketing guy got the last word...
 
I have one coat on the wife's car I think I might put another on just to try and use it up, it seems to bead well right now but doesn't sheet very good
 
Mine beaded pretty well for the first 2 months, then started to go very fast
 
octane said:
Mine beaded pretty well for the first 2 months, then started to go very fast
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Seems like Sonus ION isn't too durable. Sonax PNS beads well for a lot longer than two months. I have a nearly six month old coat on my father's rarely washed car that's still beading surprisingly well (at least on the somewhat clean top surfaces, sides are crummy).

I was considering ION because its ease of use, but ended up getting another bottle of PNS since it was on sale. Guess it was for the best.
 
Rewashed the car again today, (really weird winter here in Ottawa, Artic cold then 1 day over freezing, repeat cycle)

it's almost beading a bit around the rear spoiler, and I remember starting and finishing there, so it got two coats on that spot from what I can remember... still with 2 coats, it should last longer than 3 months and a week !

last winter PNS was still going super strong at the end of winter, so I will stick with that next year for my familly members car's
 
That is definitely not good to hear about ion. Have you contacted Sonus? Perhaps you can provide them some feedback and see what they say.
 
My results were different, however I had no exposure to road salts, and although my car sits out 24/7, I usually do not even drive it in the rain. 5 months old, and only 800 miles on it. But it has been washed with shampoo, QD, or waterless wash weekly for 5 months.

Would like to hear from someone who is in a warmer climate all the time. I still have enough to lay some down this summer, I'll see how it holds up to heat.
 
knightmare said:
My results were different, however I had no exposure to road salts, and although my car sits out 24/7, I usually do not even drive it in the rain. 5 months old, and only 800 miles on it. But it has been washed with shampoo, QD, or waterless wash weekly for 5 months.

Would like to hear from someone who is in a warmer climate all the time. I still have enough to lay some down this summer, I'll see how it holds up to heat.
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Same here, its holding up well on a "garaged" car at about 4 months. I think the OP's test is more realistic though. I still think its the more durable of the bunch though (Menz Powerlock, WGDGPS, Wet Diamond ). For me Powerlock just does not hold up 3 months even in ideal conditions.

I do agree as stated earlier in this thread that Sonax PNS is probably the most durable polymer sealant on the market (non-coating). That stuff will take pretty much anything you can throw at it. Beading is just insane.
 
anyone notice the similarities of the this as well as PL? same color and smell...
 
Dang, I live in Montreal (not far from Ottawa) and I recently purchased this product to try out something new that would hopefully last over the winter... I'll give it a try on a friend’s car before I start stripping my layered FK1000-P.

Octane what other LSP have you tried as we clearly need to protect our cars from the same weather?

So far I've tried many LSP but only one somewhat stood up to winter -> Klasse AIO / SG. I layered the SG at least 6 layers with 24 hour cure times in between. I didn't find it held up through winter and failed in certain areas only. The rocker panels, rear hatch, wheel arches/fenders, lower 1/4th of the doors and rear bumper all stopped beading shortly after the salt came out.

I'm currently using FK1000-P and am concerned about daily driver durability and winter durability after my hood suddenly stopped beading and sheeting water. The rest of my car beads and sheets but not the hood (very odd). I can only assume my mechanic spilled something on the hood that stripped the LSP and or the mechanic blankets he uses as the front fender beading is falling off too.

In the end I figured I’d try a user friendly coating (Gloss Coat or CQUK) as I haven’t been satisfied with any of the sealants or waxes I’ve tried. That’s when I came across Sonus Ion an apparently user-friendly coating with great durability. Regardless I’ll give it a try and post a write up once fall is in effect.

P.S. I’m looking for something that lasts 3-6 months during the winter that looks as good as BFWD/FK1000-P/Klasse SG, so far Collinite 845 is the closest and it’s what I use for friends and family cars I detail and as a winter topper to whatever LSP I had on.
 
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