303 Aerospace Protectant on car paints????

[mrq0604]

I usually put 2 coats of Klasse sealant (might go back to using Zaino sealant as I think it gives more depth and wet look to my white paint instead of Klasse's glossy appearance) and 2 coats of Collinite 845.

I was told by a friend that he just applies 303 Aerospace Protectant (vinyl and rubber protectant) on car paint. I've personally seen his car, and the shine was undeniable... Or maybe my mind was playing tricks as he constantly argued 303 Protectant is better than any waxes...

Has anyone applied 303 Aerospace Protectant on car paints before? Can the protectant designed for rubber and vinyl be applied to car paints? Was the shine better than traditional sealant and wax? Would you recommend topping sealant and wax with 303 Aerospace Protectant?

Thanks in advance

 

[DBAILEY]

I never tried, but I remember people doing this sometime between 2005-2010. 303 is for plastics as well as vinyl and rubber. The were spraying it on a black pad and then working it in at a slow speed with a DA. I guess the idea was that clear coat was similar to clear plastic in a way. The 303 would keep the clear coat 'fed' and replenish the UV blockers/absorbers. I think that people were kind of using it as a glazing step and then applying a wax on top.

 

[mrq0604]

I never tried, but I remember people doing this sometime between 2005-2010. 303 is for plastics as well as vinyl and rubber. The were spraying it on a black pad and then working it in at a slow speed with a DA. I guess the idea was that clear coat was similar to clear plastic in a way. The 303 would keep the clear coat 'fed' and replenish the UV blockers/absorbers. I think that people were kind of using it as a glazing step and then applying a wax on top.

Hello. Thanks for the reply.

Shouldn't glaze be applied on top of everything? I thought wax wouldn't adhere to glaze... Speaking of glaze, I already have Griot's Garage glaze. Should I use that instead?

 

[Ebg18t]

Zanio, Klasse, klasse twins, glaze everything. It’s like a late 90’s flashback.

I tried 303 on paint 15+ years ago when the bottle said you could use on pretty much anything. It ended with a streaky mess that looked even worse after the first rain.

OP- you might find some of the newer products in the market providing more protection, great shine & super easy use compared to some of the classic products we used to use.

Collinite 845 you mentioned is still a great classic product.

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[mrq0604]

Zanio, Klasse, klasse twins, glaze everything. It’s like a late 90’s flashback.

I tried 303 on paint 15+ years ago when the bottle said you could use on pretty much anything. It ended with a streaky mess that looked even worse after the first rain.

OP- you might find some of the newer products in the market providing more protection, great shine & super easy use compared to some of the classic products we used to use.


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Hello. Thanks for your reply.

As for newer products that are easier to use, could you list some examples? I'm not a pro detailer, I would appreciate some product recommendations.

Also, I'm stuck with Klasse and Collinite for the next 2 years or so... I still have a ton of these left in the bottles. As for 303 Protectant, I already have it anyway, so I was just wondering whether it could be safely applied to the exterior, especially since my friend claimed it is better.

 

[glen e]

It is not better. I've tried it, doesn't last long on paint, read about McKees 10 minute paint sealant if you want one of the new technologies that is much easier than what you're using now. Also carpro reload, blackfire si02 spray or Ultima paint guard plus.

 

[BadgerRivFan]

As for newer products that are easier to use, could you list some examples? I'm not a pro detailer, I would appreciate some product recommendations.

For a white car, you can not go wrong with: Finish Kare 1000P Hi-Temp Paste Wax, high melt polymer car wax, Finish care auto wax

Inexpensive, durable, easy to apply, terrific self cleaning ability, and makes white paint "pop" better than Zaino (imho - and I used Zaino religiously for over 10 years!). No need to top it with anything else.

Or, if you are willing to shell out the big bucks look at Polish Angel Cosmic V2. You will be blown away by the looks. Polish Angel Cosmic Kit V2

 

[Route246]

Zanio, Klasse, klasse twins, glaze everything. It’s like a late 90’s flashback.

I tried 303 on paint 15+ years ago when the bottle said you could use on pretty much anything. It ended with a streaky mess that looked even worse after the first rain.

OP- you might find some of the newer products in the market providing more protection, great shine & super easy use compared to some of the classic products we used to use.

Collinite 845 you mentioned is still a great classic product.

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What about Blue Coral and Turtle Wax? No love for those?

 

[mrq0604]

For a white car, you can not go wrong with: Finish Kare 1000P Hi-Temp Paste Wax, high melt polymer car wax, Finish care auto wax

Inexpensive, durable, easy to apply, terrific self cleaning ability, and makes white paint "pop" better than Zaino (imho - and I used Zaino religiously for over 10 years!). No need to top it with anything else.

Or, if you are willing to shell out the big bucks look at Polish Angel Cosmic V2. You will be blown away by the looks. Polish Angel Cosmic Kit V2

So are Finish Kare and Polish Angel sealants? I still want to top it off with Collinite 845 since I have it anyways.

 

[RSAUTOSPA]

I don't think 303 is strong enough paint protection, we use Q2M WETCOAT from Gyeon.

 

[PaulMys]

Judging by the way 303 streaks off of trim after the first rain (even days after applying), I wouldn't use it on my paint.

 

[mrq0604]

Judging by the way 303 streaks off of trim after the first rain (even days after applying), I wouldn't use it on my paint.

Dang.. I applied 303 on my dash 8 months ago, and it is still there! And I clean my interior weekly, and oftentimes I wipe the interior with Lysol disinfectant wipes! It survived being subjected to Lysol and damp cloth for 8 months, but it lasts only several days outside? Just how harsh is outside, and what kind of damage is it doing to my (youthful) skin and lungs?!?! Lol

 

[PaulMys]

Dang.. I applied 303 on my dash 8 months ago, and it is still there! And I clean my interior weekly, and oftentimes I wipe the interior with Lysol disinfectant wipes! It survived being subjected to Lysol and damp cloth for 8 months, but it lasts only several days outside? Just how harsh is outside, and what kind of damage is it doing to my (youthful) skin and lungs?!?! Lol

Nah, 303 works great on interior surfaces.

It just washes away on the exterior in rain. I could see it streaking down the sides of my truck bed. I only use McKee's trim restore now. Try it, and compare the vast differences. rops:

 

[Ebg18t]

Hello. Thanks for your reply.

As for newer products that are easier to use, could you list some examples? I'm not a pro detailer, I would appreciate some product recommendations.

Also, I'm stuck with Klasse and Collinite for the next 2 years or so... I still have a ton of these left in the bottles. As for 303 Protectant, I already have it anyway, so I was just wondering whether it could be safely applied to the exterior, especially since my friend claimed it is better.

Let’s revisit in 2yrs once you’ve used up your stash. Lol. It seems like things are always changing. The collinite is a great product. If you like it keep using it.

There are a ton of wipe-on-walk-away sealants now that offer great protection for 10 minutes of application time.

McKee's 37 10 Minute Paint Sealant
Optimum Opti-Seal 8 oz. Free Bonus!

Tad more work then above, but Awesome:
Sonax Polymer Net Shield, sonax polymer netshield, sonax profiline polymer netshield



There there are spray on option that you use after you rinse the car. Spray, rinse, dry. Super easy.

McKee's 37 Hydro Blue Sio2 Coating



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[BadgerRivFan]

So are Finish Kare and Polish Angel sealants? I still want to top it off with Collinite 845 since I have it anyways.

FK1000P is a synthetic paste sealant. Cosmic V2 is a ceramic coating, which applies very easily like a sealant and could really be considered a “super sealant.”

Neither should be topped with 845 as that would not give you any additional protection and would not improve the looks. It would (imho) be a waste to top either of these LSPs with a hybrid wax.

Collinite 845 is a very good hybrid wax, and if you want to use up your supply first just use it on it’s own as your sole LSP.

You asked specifically for product recommendations, and I noted that you are working with white paint. If that’s what you want I gave you two great choices from my own personal experience.

Forget about Zaino would be my other advice. Others may disagree, but part of the fun is discovering what YOU like on your own, so go ahead and experiment.

 

[mrq0604]

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You asked specifically for product recommendations, and I noted that you are working with white paint. If that’s what you want I gave you two great choices from my own personal experience.

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I should give FK1000P a try next. I'm not yet sold on ceramic coatings as of now.

I don't have much experience, but I think Zaino + Collinite gave the best results for white paint in terms of depth, reflection and wet look. I was really disappointed in Klasse, and it doesn't seem to last as long as Zaino.

Thanks for your recommendations

 

[MattPersman]

303 makes spray wax too. They only state up to 30 days protection although the top says it’s 90 days now so anywhere between 30-90 days maybe.

303 Spray Wax

The protectant needs to be rubbed in and reapplied every 30 days as well.

I certainly wouldn’t count on the aerospace product for paint when there are so many good waxes sealants and coatings out there. Probably better than nothing but certainly not the optimum choice.


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[TTQ B4U]

I usually put 2 coats of Klasse sealant (might go back to using Zaino sealant as I think it gives more depth and wet look to my white paint instead of Klasse's glossy appearance) and 2 coats of Collinite 845.

I say put the 1990's to bed and move away from Zaino and Klasse. Both are decent but IMO the key to a wet-look is the polishing. Get a good correction going and refine it with a great polish like CarPro Essence or Gyeon's Primer. Both will really amp up the gloss level. Once done, Apply a coating and enjoy the candy look of it all. On light colors I like CarPro's Classic Cquartz and with Gyeon, I'm a huge fan of their Syncro Kit which is a combination of their super hard Mohs coating done in 2-3 layers followed by a SUPER hydrophobic topcoat of Skin. Both will provide better gloss, protection and overall properties including longevity.

Judging by the way 303 streaks off of trim after the first rain (even days after applying), I wouldn't use it on my paint.

^^ absolutely agree. This.

 

[mk9750]

"Also, I'm stuck with Klasse and Collinite for the next 2 years or so... I still have a ton of these left in the bottles. As for 303 Protectant, I already have it anyway, so I was just wondering whether it could be safely applied to the exterior, especially since my friend claimed it is better.[/QUOTE]"

mrq, I'm not yet an expert at detailing, but I do have some business acumen, and what you describe is having a sunk cost. The thinking that you can't change because you've already paid for something constrains far too many business people, and the problem can extend to people in their personal finances as well. You might have spent money on something, but if it doesn't work, or, if you find something so significantly better, it's more expensive to continue with the old product than to bite the bullet and make a switch.

I'm not saying either Klasse or Collinite are bad products. In fact, I've never used either. But if you are not happy, most business people would suggest that you embark on a search for a better alternative.

If you're happy with your products, that's certainly a different story. But, in my VERY humble opinion, don't let money already spent be the barrier to making an improvement.

 

[DBAILEY]

The idea with the 303 on the paint was that it was considered 'good' for the clear coat and repeated application with a DA and black pad kept it 'nourished' (I know I hate that word being used in detailing products too) and that the UVA/UVB was being absorbed into the paint.

I don't remember anyone just wiping 303 on the paint, wiping it dry and leaving it like that. People were topping with a wax for longer protection.

It wasn't a glaze in the sense that it filled swirling, cleaned the paint or leave a layer of oils or acrylic glaze behind. However, it did seem to add a richness in color which people assumed was from the clear coat being 'hydrated'. (I know, another one of those BS buzz words)