303 graphene longevity issue

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I used this on a black Toyota Tundra. Did a couple panels at a time to not let it dry too long but did wait for it to haze over. First time it rained the beading and water shedding was incredible and I had high hopes. Next time it rained there was no beading on the hood. I washed, clayed and polished out some scratches. Then I used Klasse AIO to clean the rest of the paint. Did I screw up putting the graphene over acrylic? I think 303 said you could put it over other products. Never had an issue with Wolfgang sealant adhering to the Klasse. Trucks paint looked great but way too much work for one week of results.
 
I put on the 3O3 first, and I’m going on 5 months and it’s still glosses and beads perfectly. I followed up with car Pro elixir as a topper just recently, very happy with the results so far. Garage kept.
 
glen e said:
I put on the 3O3 first, and I’m going on 5 months and it’s still glosses and beads perfectly. I followed up with car Pro elixir as a topper just recently, very happy with the results so far. Garage kept.
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I wondered if the fact it had some dust on it from where I park at work made a difference. After washing it the beading was restored to the hood and roof. It rained last night so I thought any dust would be rinsed away but apparently not. With Wolfgang sealant it used to look like it was just washed after a rain and always beaded water. Since the graphene doesn’t feel slick like a wax or polymer I’m guessing the rain didn’t take the dirt off so the water wasn’t actually sitting on the sealant but rather the dirt. That’s good because this stuff makes my black paint look really good. Just a bit of a drawback for graphene but I’m going to top it with something anyway. Thanks
 
303 Graphene Coating doesn’t last. People who are saying it does probably don’t drive their car and leave it in a garage all the time.
 
EddieVDetailing said:
303 Graphene Coating doesn’t last. People who are saying it does probably don’t drive their car and leave it in a garage all the time.
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Thought it was worth a try. I usually use WDGPS with good results.
 
Rsurfer said:
Sounds like your happy with Wolfgang, so why not continue using it?
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I just ordered some Wolfgang iso2 spray sealant to top the graphene. I just wanted to see if the durability of the graphene would live up to the claims.
 
Just started using this....

Says one should get 12 months out of one application. 18 months with proper care.

Tom
 
I used some on a new wheel. I wasn't impressed with the beading when I squirted it with a hose. After a quick wash, the wheel beaded up nicely. Time will tell how long it lasts.
 
303 Graphene did not impress me at all. Wipe off was messy, gloss and hydrophobicity were average at best. It has been relegated to the 'one and done' shelf
 
Gee, I received it as a prize and haven't used it yet. Now I'm hesitant to. Maybe I ought to reserve it for wheels.
 
Bill D said:
Gee, I received it as a prize and haven't used it yet. Now I'm hesitant to. Maybe I ought to reserve it for wheels.
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No reason not to try it....maybe your results will be better/different than mine. I'm one of the few people who dislike P&S Brake Buster, too....so maybe I just don't know how to use these products.....I'm always willing to admit it might just be user error.
 
I’m not sure what problem you guys are having with the 3 03. I’m going on 5 months and it’s still beading and glossing well, yes my car is garaged but it’s driven every day/1500 Mi a month. I also run it through a touchless car wash about every two weeks and that has not diminished the 303.I do top it off with some Carpro elixir occasionally but the 303 is my go to for a sealant right now, I’ll use it every six months or so. Compared to some of the stuff out there, it’s also cheap.

The only downside I see with this product is if you don’t wash your microfiber buff off towel right away, it will turn that black. I also put it on with a black microfiber brick.
 
The videos ScottHD has with this product doesn't look that impressive or even that durable. But its a spray so who cares. Just use it more often.
 
glen e said:
I’m not sure what problem you guys are having with the 3 03. I’m going on 5 months and it’s still beading and glossing well, yes my car is garaged but it’s driven every day/1500 Mi a month. I also run it through a touchless car wash about every two weeks and that has not diminished the 303.I do top it off with some Carpro elixir occasionally but the 303 is my go to for a sealant right now, I’ll use it every six months or so. Compared to some of the stuff out there, it’s also cheap.

The only downside I see with this product is if you don’t wash your microfiber buff off towel right away, it will turn that black. I also put it on with a black microfiber brick.
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What you consider still glossy and beading may not be what others would consider the same. I’d be interested in pictures of 5 month old 303 beads if you can post...


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glen e said:
I also run it through a touchless car wash about every two weeks and that has not diminished the 303.
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Could be that the touchless car wash isn't just spraying soap on your car. The car wash wants people's cars to look good when they leave so there might be some type of wax product added to the cleaning process.
 
glen e said:
I do top it off with some Carpro elixir occasionally but the 303 is my go to for a sealant right now...
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I have no experience with 303 Graphene, but this comment caught my eye. The results you're seeing could be due to the usage of Elixr. I found Elixr to be surprisingly durable for being categorized as a QD spray. When used on bare paint (long story, never wanted it to be an LSP) I found it provide great LSP-like properties for nearly a month!
 
I thought that comment might bring that type of response. No, I got at least four months out of the 303 before I ever started the elixir and it looked good…… if I get 4 to 5 months out of a product like 303 which is so easy to put on and get off, that’s enough protection and durability for me. I only used the elixir once and it was about two weeks ago. It definitely did amp up the gloss.
 
dennis b said:
Could be that the touchless car wash isn't just spraying soap on your car. The car wash wants people's cars to look good when they leave so there might be some type of wax product added to the cleaning process.
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Nope, I always choose the “express” selection which is nothing but a soap and water rinse. They were servicing the facility several months ago and I stopped and talked to the guy working on it and he confirmed that express was just a quick soap and rinse, no Protectants or waxes.
 
Since this was posted in the

Ask Mike Phillips your detailing questions forum group

Sorry I missed it when it was first posted, looks like it was late Friday night. 05-21-2021, 11:27 PM - I was already in bed. :bolt:


I've applied this product to a number of cars but most of them I've never seen again. It is on my neighbor's 2019 Toyota RAV4 Hybrid. It's parked under a carport most of the time.

I'll ask the owner when he's planning on washing it again and then ask him to pay attention to how the finish looks on the RAV4


:)
 
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