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Hi All,

Curious, has any one used 303 graphene on unpainted porus black trim/molding without staining/discoloring the trim? Looking for real world results.

I know the product has petroleum distillates in it and i've heard that is what causes the discoloring.

Thanks in advance!
 
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bfenne said:
Hi All,

Curious, has any one used 303 graphene on unpainted porus black trim/molding without staining/discoloring the trim? Looking for real world results.

I know the product has petroleum distillates in it
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My Chap-stick has petroleum distillates

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It has not been hurting my lips let alone staining them as long as I've been using this product.



bfenne said:
i've heard that is what causes the discoloring.
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Where have you heard this at? Can you share your source?


:dunno:
 
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Sorry about the duplicates. Was not sure where it was best posted. As you can see I do not post very often.

You went through more effort being a comedian than helping someone with a legitimate question.

Your comparison is worthless by the way.

Your the pro so how about being professional and answer the question big boy.

Thanks.
 
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bfenne said:
Your comparison is worthless by the way.
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Apologies if I came off the wrong way, that was not my intention. But it is my intention to get factual information and avoid any misconceptions about any companies products so there's no confusion as to whether a product is good or bad or safe or harmful.

Petroleum distillates come in hundreds of forms and many are completely safe as the example of Chap-Stick. This is a common topic, common enough I've written about it in the past.

Petroleum Distillates or Solvents


There's a lot of misconceptions about petroleum distillates because there are so many types. What I wrote in the article above simply states to pick a reputable brand of products and trust the chemist behind them has done there research and put out a product that is in fact safe for it's intended use.


While I have not heard or read anything about this new product staining any kind of trim I would not say it cannot happen. And when I have the chemist behind this product here I will ask him if it's a known problem.


I'll update this thread when I find out the answer.


:)
 
bfenne said:
Hi All,

Curious, has any one used 303 graphene on unpainted porus black trim/molding without staining/discoloring the trim? Looking for real world results.

I know the product has petroleum distillates in it and i've heard that is what causes the discoloring.

Thanks in advance!
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I'm going to guess that since you're asking questions about this product that you have not yet used it?

If you send me your shipping address I will send you a free bottle to try out plus the applicator and towels that I find work best to apply and remove the product.

Send shipping address to

[email protected]



:cheers:
 
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No worries and truth be told the chap stick was kinda funny.

I was hoping since you did a detailed and very positive review on 303 graphen thought someone may have real world results to share.

As not to create an online pissing match I would not offer my source. I will say however the individual is the face of a major brand in coatings and you have had them on your videos.

I asked about 303 because of your review and others and want to try it. Ever since I was told it was the petroleum distallates that cause this problem it has been something I ask about for any product.

Since you have used it, did you use it on any black unpainted porous plastic trim/molding? Any discoloration after some period of time passed?
 
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After using this product on a few different cars now, here's what I've found to be a really good applicator,


Recommendation: Microfiber Applicator Pad for applying 303 Graphene Nano Coating Spray


Extra Large Microfiber Applicator Pad

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And these towels really work good because they are a tick on the stout side versus soft and limp. (the 303 Graphene is a tick on the sticky side to wipe off)


Mike Like - The Rag Company FTW Premium Orange Microfiber Towel



The Rag Company FTW Premium Orange Microfiber Towel

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This towel is stout but still soft. It has a closed fiber loop for a nap. This type of loop slices into the film on paint, be it compound, polish or wax. It slice into it and breaks it up making it easier to remove, safer to the paint and easier on you.


And... they are not even that expensive.


I'm not sure why the Rag Company markets these as "glass" towels, even though they do work great for cleaning glass. But what they are really good at is removing compounds, polishes and cleaner/waxes.


Because they are stout, I would not use or recommend them for super soft paints - but for about 85% of the rest of the cars on the road or anytime you're working on gelcoat boats - yeah... these are nice towels.



:)
 
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bfenne said:
No worries and truth be told the chap stick was kinda funny.

I was hoping since you did a detailed and very positive review on 303 graphen thought someone may have real world results to share.

As not to create an online pissing match I would not offer my source. I will say however the individual is the face of a major brand in coatings and you have had them on your videos.
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No worries, I respect everyone has their own experience and from that their own opinion.


bfenne said:
I asked about 303 because of your review and others and want to try it. Ever since I was told it was the petroleum distillates that cause this problem it has been something I ask about for any product.

Since you have used it, did you use it on any black unpainted porous plastic trim/molding? Any discoloration after some period of time passed?
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I can check my neighbors 2019 Toyota RAV4 - I detailed it for them and used the 303 on it and it does have some plastic trim. I don't remember getting any on the trim but I could have so I'll look when I get home today.

I will also use my car's plastic trim as a guinea pig and purposefully apply some and watch what happens over time.

And just to make sure, we're talking about the commonly used pebble textured plastic trim used on the outside of lots of cars? Usually around side mirrors, the plastic cladding around the wiper arms behind the back of the good, lower cladding on the bottom of cars and also around fenders?


:)
 
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Here's the modern car I did a full paint correction and then sealed with the 303 Graphene Nano Spray Coating.


LIVE Detailing Class - 303 Graphene Nano Coating - 2019 Toyota RAV4

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And - while I didn't look for stained trim on this car I did look it over yesterday just to see how she's looking and she still looks great.

I'll ask the owner how he normally washes it as I'm unsure.



:)
 
Awesome. Yes that is the type of trim. Unpainted and textured plastic.


Thanks Mike.!
 
Just redid my wife`s rogue with no problems at all. First coat made it through SW Pa winter with a topper on it.
 
Here's what shipped out today,

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When using the large black microfiber applicator pad - dampen one side with the 303 Graphene and then use this side to apply to the entire vehicle.

After you dampen one side, moving forward you can continue to apply/spray onto applicator or mist a little onto a panel and spread with applicator.

Wait until product dries to a haze and then use the orange towels to gently remove.

When it's your first time - start by ONLY treating one panel, for example the hood or trunk lid. Allow to dry to a haze, about 10 to 15 minutes and then remove. This will give you a feel for how it removes and thus teach you to apply THIN applications. A little bit goes a long way.


:)
 
To be honest... I used 303 on my DD (Subaru Crosstrek with all the plastics cladding all the way around) as well as over a dozen vehicles I worked on and I havent seen any trims being stained. In fact, I applied it to the trims as well as glass as a routine service. No issues at all. It has been over 3 months since I had it on my DD that sat outdoor 24/7. The trims are still dark and beads water like heck. I saw a few other vehicles that came back for maintenance wash that had 303. No issues there either.
 
KBsToy said:
Just redid my wife`s rogue with no problems at all. First coat made it through SW Pa winter with a topper on it.
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I know PA weather well. Thanks for sharing your experience. What topper did you use?
 
"Petroleum distillate" is way of saying it's a product of processing crude petroleum (crude oil) products. It could be one of many (probably hundreds if not thousands) of things. In the context of what 303 uses it for, it's probably as a solvent. 303 doesn't have to say which solvent they use, just that they're using a petroleum distillate derived solvent. Mineral spirits are a petroleum distillate and it sure can stain all sorts of things. But there's other ones that are much, much less harmful to you and your car. I wouldn't ever hesitate to use anything on anything just because it says petroleum distillates.
 
conman1395 said:
"Petroleum distillate" is way of saying it's a product of processing crude petroleum (crude oil) products. It could be one of many (probably hundreds if not thousands) of things. In the context of what 303 uses it for, it's probably as a solvent. 303 doesn't have to say which solvent they use, just that they're using a petroleum distillate derived solvent. Mineral spirits are a petroleum distillate and it sure can stain all sorts of things. But there's other ones that are much, much less harmful to you and your car. I wouldn't ever hesitate to use anything on anything just because it says petroleum distillates.
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I've used Mineral Spirits in many, many applications and have never stained anything. What "sorts of things" are you referring to?
 
psnt1ol said:
To be honest... I used 303 on my DD (Subaru Crosstrek with all the plastics cladding all the way around) as well as over a dozen vehicles I worked on and I havent seen any trims being stained. In fact, I applied it to the trims as well as glass as a routine service. No issues at all. It has been over 3 months since I had it on my DD that sat outdoor 24/7. The trims are still dark and beads water like heck. I saw a few other vehicles that came back for maintenance wash that had 303. No issues there either.
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Thank you for the feedback. I currently use my last coating choice on every surface as well. Call me lazy I guess but one stop shopping has its Positives. Sounds like 303 maybe fit the same mold but more robust durability and performance.
 
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