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mully_94

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First post, here goes nothing

I have a 1970 Plymouth Roadrunner its color is limelight green with the black performance hood stripe and I’m looking to get the maximum pop out of it. The car is garaged at all times, goes out for a cruise on Saturday or Sunday once a week or so, goes to about 1-3 shows a month, it hasn’t seen rain in 10+ years, originally a Florida car but now resides north of Boston.

My current arsenal

• Dodo Juice Supernatural Wash Mitt
• Dodo Juice Supernatural Shampoo
• Autogeek Quart Foamaster Foam Gun
• Dodo Juice Time To Dry Drying Detailer
It rarely gets an actual wash with the foam gun and the mitt, usually I use a quick detailer and a duster.

• Dodo Juice Red Mist Tropical Protection Detailer
• Dodo Juice Supernatural Carnauba Glaze
• Riccardo Yellow Detailing Clay
• Riccardo Blue Detailing Clay
• Dodo Juice Born Slippy Clay Lubricant
• Dodo Juice Rainforest Rub Soft Wax
• Wolfgang Deep Gloss Paint Sealant
• Pinnacle Liquid Souveran Wax
The Wolfgang and Pinnacle are coming from a new order, I have yet to use them.

• Wolfgang Tire & Wheel Kit
• Daytona Speed Master Wheel Brush Trio
• The Complete Guide to a Show Car Shine Book
• Mega Cyclo Kit (Variable Speed Model)
• XMT Swirl Remover Bundle #1,#2,#3,#4
• XMT Carnauba Finishing Glaze
• Microfiber Suede Pad Cover
• Cotton Terry Pad Cover
I haven’t gotten the chance to use the Cyclo on it, I just got the Cyclo a few days ago.

I was wondering if this is a good list of products or if I’m overlooking something, I've been extremely happy with Dodo Juice products and they have not let me down yet, and everyone loves how they make the car look. I was also wondering about a wax specifically for dark colors to use on the hood stripe, or would it be pointless? As I said, I’m just really focused on the maximum pop/wow factor.

(I attached a photo of the hood stripe)
(Sorry if this is in the wrong place)

Thanks for the help
 
You got good stuff. Dodo is top notch. Any additional bling will come from polishing.
 
Welcome and great first post! I love classics!

swanicyouth said:
You got good stuff. Dodo is top notch. Any additional bling will come from polishing.
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Yep, you've got pretty much everything you need for maintenance. What is the current paint condition? Does it need correction or is it pretty much perfect and your looking for max gloss? You should look into a quality polish and some polishing pads for your DA!
 
Just02896 - It has extremely minor swirls, once I get the XMT #1 I'm sure that will take care of it, after that it's just the max gloss I'm after. If you have any recommendations for a polish that would be great, I have a good amount of pads (the 8 that came with the Cyclo kit)

Thanks
 
cleanmycorolla - I know that they can cause problems when used incorrectly, it's a California car duster and it's only for that car. what else can I use to remove dust?
 
mully_94 said:
cleanmycorolla - I know that they can cause problems when used incorrectly, it's a California car duster and it's only for that car. what else can I use to remove dust?
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I think your OK with a duster so long as it is a good quality one and kept clean. Just dust very lightly and the paint sealant and/or wax should pretty much prevent any swirls. If the dust is thick, flood the paint with an open ended garden hose to gently lift and float away the majority of the dust. From there you can do a 2 bucket wash, rinse, and dry. At that point I would clay the paint, correct the swirls with Menz 2500, polish with Menz 4500, wash again, and then seal the paint with WDGPS. After that you can add a coat or two of your favorite wax if you feel the need. And don't forget to polish up your glass! It really adds to the glow and the overall wow factor! You can also substitute with Meg's 105 and 205.

Does the car get trailered to shows or driven? If trailered, is it an open or enclosed trailer?
 
Just02896 - The car is driven to shows, and dust build up isn't a huge problem, there is little dust that settles on it while it's sitting in the garage, I'll mainly use the duster upon arrival to a show to take any thing off that may have gotten on it on the way, like pollen and give it a spray of quick detailer as well.
 
mully_94 said:
cleanmycorolla - I know that they can cause problems when used incorrectly, it's a California car duster and it's only for that car. what else can I use to remove dust?
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Pretty much any qd or waterless wash and a quality microfiber(s). :)
 
mully_94 said:
cleanmycorolla - I know that they can cause problems when used incorrectly, it's a California car duster and it's only for that car. what else can I use to remove dust?
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Take the car duster far away from the car, burn it, and forget it ever existed. Car dusters are evil products made by evil people.
 
TundraPower - ok, anything else that I should stay away from?
 
First off, :welcome:to AGO! :D

Nice lil' weekend cruiser you've got there. I have a neighbor/customer that has several MOPARS. He has a 800HP 70 Roadrunner that runs on 112 octane racing fuel. Then he's building a total nut and bolt restoration of a 71 Roadrunner in memory of his wife. He's also got a 68 square body car, GTX I think. And he just sold his red 09 Viper for a 2013 triple black one. He has Chevy's and Fords too, likes to spread the wealth.


TundraPower said:
Take the car duster far away from the car, burn it, and forget it ever existed. Car dusters are evil products made by evil people.
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:iagree::iagree::iagree::iagree::iagree:

I've used the California Car Duster for years, (not on my cars) but did use them on my rollbacks. It's the EXACT SAME CONSTRUCTION as the floor sweepers used in your local elementary, middle, and high school. IOW's it's meant for a floor, not a car!

Instead, you can find a microfiber, disposable duster. Check Lowes or Home Depot. They are very light and very soft as well as not expensive at all. Once they get a little dust build up in them you just toss it and get a clean one. This is one that's similar. You'll have to take a look at them in person, but I find they work just as good as anything else and hardly put any pressure at all on the paint.
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What I do is spritz it with a QD spray VERY lightly and then don't even lay it on the paint. I hold it off the paint and with a turn of the wrist coming from back to front I just turn it as I go. Say on the left side of the roof I'll start at the back and turning it clockwise, with only enough pressure to pickup the dust I'll bring it forward and turn it at the same time. Then on the right side I'll do the same thing, just turning it counter clockwise. The key is for it NOT TO GET WET. Just slightly damp, enough to lift the dust.

I've been using Blackfire Midnight Sun QD spray this summer & BF Wet Diamond Polymer Spray along with Wolfgang Spritz Sealant and Spritz QD. (Both on top of either BF Crystal Seal or Wolfgang Deep Gloss Liquid Seal.)


Did you clear the paint or is it single stage? Not that it makes a huge difference once you get it corrected, just that clear coat is easier to work and keep that way.

Can't say anything negative about the Dodo Juice, they know wax that's for sure.

But have you tried any sealants? I'd consider sealing it, then once it's cured you can still wax it for that extra 'pop'. I know M26 isn't sexy, and doesn't come in a fancy container, much less have an aroma that makes you want to eat it, but it has killer reflection and color rendition. Actually is known to have one of the best DOI (Distinctness Of Image) numbers out there. Actually increases the depth of the LSP that it's installed over. :props:

Sealing with Megs M21 2.0, letting it cure for a day or two then going over it with M26 will make for an incredibly deep and wet shine. Plus it has this whole 'tactile' feel about it. Almost sexy it's so smooth and has a fluidity to it. :)

Might want to check out this thread, it's a bit old but still to the point;

http://www.autogeekonline.net/forum/ask-expert-featuring-mike-phillips/49699-glossmeter-2.html

And of course there is always #### for the whole explanation of it all. ;)

I'm a big Meguiar's fan and would probably do it all with 205 just to make sure it's all clean and totally swirl free. No fillers in it, it's SMAT so you know it'll cut from start to finish, and it has predictable, repeatable results. Day-in, day-out you know you can use the same pad, same amount of product, and that product will cut from first pass till last pass. And..... it'll finish out very very well.

But what you're looking for is that "show car shine". Knowing that I'd go back after 205 with either Megs Ultimate Polish (which is still SMAT) that works like 205 but has even less cut *OR* change it up and go over it with Menzerna 4000.

Menzerna (being DAT) doesn't finish out the same as Megs because it starts breaking down the minute you start working it, but the longer you work it the more it breaks down, the finer it gets, and that's where it ends up having that 'look' that it's known for. Some like better, some don't. :dunno: I like it, just don't use it on my own cars.

I like working with SMAT products better, and find that it uses less product, which also ends up with having to clean the pads less often to remove all the spent product. I have no doubt that 205 then Megs Ultimate Polish will finish out superbly. And most likely in less time and with fewer section passes. (Remembering that the Menz HAS TO BE worked till it's broken down or it isn't being used the way it's designed to be.)

That aside; I also keep a few bottles of Menz, as well as some other DAT products here, from Griot's to old school Mequiars. ;) The only Menz products I have though are 400, 2000 and 4000 and find that they are all I could ever need. I've not even used the 400 (was in a kit I bought) because *WHEN* I use Menz it's only for the finishing end of things. It does finish really nicely, (maybe not better than a two step Megs like I mentioned above) but by then you've got as much time in it as you would if you used Menz 2500 for instance.

I'll still reach for a Meguiar's (SMAT based) product for the cut/compounding stage though, just like the speed of correction so much better.

All this and we've not even touched on whether or not you might like the look of a coating on it. ;) I can tell you, it is monster shiny! (Maybe not as sexy, not as 'tactile' at least to me, but it's shiny.) :)

Again, welcome to AGO, and kudos on that "Sublime" ride you have there. ;)
 
Cardaddy – If only I could have cool neighbors like that, and thanks for the help. For now I’ll assume the paint is a clearcoat, because it was repainted in ‘01, but I will go through the book pf recipes I got from the previous owner to make sure. I haven’t tried any sealants on this car yet, I have Dodo Juice Iron Gloss (which I use on my DD) and I think that I can get 1-2 more good applications out of the bottle, but I also have Wolfgang Deep Gloss Paint Sealant coming in on an order, if you have a recommendation on which one of those two to use that’d be great. As for the swirls, they are extremely minor and I ordered XMT #1-#4 and I think that #1 should take care of it, because when I say extremely minor it really is barely visible. The duster is in stock at my local Lowes and for $5 I’ll give it a try. Do you think it would be worth it to get a color specific wax like the Meguiars Black Wax for the hood stripe, or keep it all one wax?
 
mully_94 said:
Cardaddy – If only I could have cool neighbors like that, and thanks for the help. For now I’ll assume the paint is a clearcoat, because it was repainted in ‘01, but I will go through the book pf recipes I got from the previous owner to make sure. I haven’t tried any sealants on this car yet, I have Dodo Juice Iron Gloss (which I use on my DD) and I think that I can get 1-2 more good applications out of the bottle, but I also have Wolfgang Deep Gloss Paint Sealant coming in on an order, if you have a recommendation on which one of those two to use that’d be great. As for the swirls, they are extremely minor and I ordered XMT #1-#4 and I think that #1 should take care of it, because when I say extremely minor it really is barely visible. The duster is in stock at my local Lowes and for $5 I’ll give it a try. Do you think it would be worth it to get a color specific wax like the Meguiars Black Wax for the hood stripe, or keep it all one wax?
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I'm in RI! Consider me a neighbor who is willing to help out with whatever I can! :-) Is the black hood stripe under the clear or is it a vinyl overlay? WDGPS is an impressive product that gives the glow of a wax and the gloss and protection of a sealant. You will be very happy with the results!
 
Just02896 – Good to know, that’s definitely helpful having someone from New England to help and recommend products for the weather we get. I went through my folder of receipts for the car that the previous owner gave me and it IS Single Stage paint (NOT Clear like I previously said). Also the stripe on the hood is painted, not a vinyl overlay. Although PPG was the brand used for the body paint, Ditzler DDL-9355 (Black Organosol) (factory specs) was used for the hood, it is a flat black with a light sparkle (best way to describe it)

Thanks for the help
 
70 Roadrunner huh, funny coincidence

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Bought this one in 1973 in Caribou Maine while in the USAF, restored in 1985

Dave
 
Davidc – that’s a beauty, and I love the air grabber scoop, and the vinyl roof looks great with the color combo. What engine/trans do you have, mine has the 383 with 335 HP (original) and 4 speed Pistol Grip (original), and the car has never had a major restoration. I’ll always be biased towards Mopars because they are beautiful and you don’t see them around my area, its mostly tri-fives, vettes and mustangs near me, but there’s the occasional Mopar at the local show, I wish there were more.
 
mully_94 said:
Davidc – that’s a beauty, and I love the air grabber scoop, and the vinyl roof looks great with the color combo. What engine/trans do you have, mine has the 383 with 335 HP (original) and 4 speed Pistol Grip (original), and the car has never had a major restoration. I’ll always be biased towards Mopars because they are beautiful and you don’t see them around my area, its mostly tri-fives, vettes and mustangs near me, but there’s the occasional Mopar at the local show, I wish there were more.
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Same engine, same shifter. There is nothing like a vintage Hurst Pistol Grip in your hand. I haven't been to a car show in years, around here at the Mopar shows there were always Super Birds, Daytona Chargers, Cuda's, Challengers, Roadrunners, Chargers and everything in between from slant 6's to Hemi's. Real Hemi's by the way. Arizona is the perfect preservation place for the classic muscle cars.

Dave
 
Mully,

I figured it was single stage. And when you said 01 that really made me think it was. Easy enough to test, take a small area, inner fender, inside the trunk etc, and take an applicator pad with some mild polish and do a VERY small area by hand. It comes off green, that's single stage. ;)

I'd put the WG sealant on that puppy! Then once it's cured long enough, (in the summer that'd be from 12 to 24 hours) then you can carefully apply your favorite wax on top of it. The WG will last till warm weather, where the wax is good for just a couple of weeks. Putting on top though adds that extra 'pop'.

Another thing you really might want to try on that SS paint is Meguiars #7 glaze. It'll really wake up the paint, even when applied by hand. And it will add some needed oils as well as clean it while your at it. Win win! You can then top that with either Megs M21 2.0 or the WG sealant. Do a search for Mike Philips and the Megs #7. He has a full write up on how much it helps old paint. ;)

If the stripe isn't vinyl matte, and you've been putting product on it without it turning white then use that. Lots of spray waxes/sealants/polymers play well with painted stripes.
 
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