A tip for working with Klasse Sealant Glaze - READ This before using

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A tip for working with Klasse Sealant Glaze - READ This before using


Tip: Test to small area first
Anytime you're going to use a wax, paint sealant or coating that is a product you've never used before, especially if you're planning on applying it to the entire car... to get a feel for how the product applies and most important, how it wipes off, first test the product to a small area.

This way you'll be familiar with the application and wipe-off characteristics for the specific product before applying to the entire car.


A small area = about a foot squared
The average size square microfiber towel is 16" by 16", which is a little larger than a foot squared. So for your test section, lay a clean microfiber towel out flat, like this,

MicrofiberTowel001.jpg



Then use this area as a guide as to how large of an area to apply the product onto in order to get a good feel for both the application and wipe-off characteristics of the new-to-you product.


Follow the manufactures directions
Manufactures know their product formulas best so take a moment to read the directions for application and removal on the label and then follow them as recommended.

Waxes and Paint Sealants that dry
If the directions state that you should allow the product to dry to haze before removal then allow the product to dry before removing it.


The Swipe Test
Here's a handy test to check and see if a wax or paint sealant is dry and ready to remove, The Swipe Test


Wipe-on, wipe-off waxes and paint sealants
Some products are formulated to be removed before they dry, these are called wipe-on, wipe-off waxes. If you're using a wipe-on, wipe-off wax then immediately after applying the wax to the entire car go ahead and remove it.


Products vary and climatic conditions vary
The chemistry between products can be very different; some products wipe off a tick on the difficult side while some products wipe off incredibly easy.

Products perform differently in different environmental conditions; a product that applies and remove easily in a humid area may apply and wipe off with great difficulty in another geographical location that's hot and dry.


The idea behind this tip is for you to become acquainted with a product you've never used before in your specific geographical, environmental and climatic location.


For some people, what this may teach them is the importance of applying a thin coating and if you're new to the world of detailing in general and waxing by hand in specific, you might not know 100% exactly what is meant by a thin coating and you don't want to learn what thin means the hard way.


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very good advice. today everything has to be applied in a thin coat or at least it seems that way. if i can "see" the product when i apply it then it is to thick. as long as it looks like there is a smearing action taking place when you wipe product on then i know it is thin and there is product being applied.
 
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this is great advice! anyone ever let m16 dry lolol its like concrete! my dad found that out the hard way!
 
Re: One tip for working with waxes, paint sealants or coatings that are new to you...

That's great advise Mike, M16 falls under that category that you want to apply it by DA if possible because it can be VERY difficult to remove it you apply it too thick. Can that product be used as a WOWO product and still offer the same protection as if you let it dry and removed?
 
Re: One tip for working with waxes, paint sealants or coatings that are new to you...

this is great advice! anyone ever let m16 dry lolol its like concrete! my dad found that out the hard way!
Ha, you beat me too it! :xyxthumbs:
 
Re: One tip for working with waxes, paint sealants or coatings that are new to you...

this is great advice! anyone ever let M16 dry LOL its like concrete! my dad found that out the hard way!

Exactly my point. M16 is a great example. If you apply a thick coating of this by accident or because you new to detailing and don't really have a feel for what a thick or thin coating is then trying to wipe off a dried coating of M16 can dang near break your arm. I used M16 for years in my early detailing career and learned the hard way like everyone else to apply a thin coating. M16 is a true heavy wax also called a hard wax and when it dries if you applied a thick coating it's going to be very difficult to wipe-off.

Part of the problem with people applying too thick of a coating of any wax, sealant or coating is a mindset that goes like this,

If a little is good... more is better...


Now that's true of my bank account and my gas tank but when it comes to a wax, paint sealant or a coating, all you want is a thin coating, well-worked over the surface.


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hahaha thats funny! great mids think alike;) yeah my dad put m16 on the whole car and let it sit for 30 mins before he tried to remove it. i was like didn't you listen to what i said? one panel at a time! wipe on the whole panel then wipe off immediately!
 
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well said Mike!!!! my dad def learned his lesson that day! lol
 
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I wish I had seen this thread before I applied Griots Best Of Show Wax! What a PITA to remove!
 
Re: A tip for working with waxes, paint sealants or coatings that are new to you

Excellent advice about going thin Mike!

People have to realize they are buffing off 99% of what they are putting on so it's illogical to think you would need any more than the thinnest coat possible to achieve complete coverage.

Well, of course my comment doesn't apply to wowa sealants like Ultima Paint Guard Plus or Optimum Opti Seal since they are not buffed off but then with wowa you use almost no product at all!
 
Re: A tip for working with waxes, paint sealants or coatings that are new to you

Good article, as always, Mike.

Under "The Swipe Test" section, specifically the blue "The Swipe Test" did you mean to put a link behind that?
 
Re: A tip for working with waxes, paint sealants or coatings that are new to you

Good article, as always, Mike.

Under "The Swipe Test" section, specifically the blue "The Swipe Test" did you mean to put a link behind that?

Yes!

I meant to but have not re-written my original article from MeguiarsOnline for the AG forum.

I think I originally wrote "The Swipe Test" in 2004 and then after I left Mike Stoops re-wrote my original article under his name and mine disappeared into the cyber ether...

I did re-write it for my e-book so I'll try to whip it out and add it to my article list and then edit the blue text on the first page of this thread to go to the article.

One thing though... you can't use the Swipe Test for Klasse Sealant Glaze unless you put it on whisper thin and then it still doesn't work very well as KSG really grips the paint.

The Swipe Test really only works for waxes and paint sealants that dry... excluding products like KSG and coatings like CQuartz.


Thanks for bringing this to my attention...



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I wish I had seen this thread before I applied Griots Best Of Show Wax! What a PITA to remove!

If you apply too much of Griots Best of Show wax in some areas, it can be very easily removed with their Spray On wax.

Same principle applies to Griots polishes; if you put too much on, it can be easily removed with their Speed Shine product.
 
Re: A tip for working with waxes, paint sealants or coatings that are new to you

Hi all. Today I used a aio paint sealant and had lots of trouble removing it. Yesterday, I used the same product, applied the same way, no problems. Today was hotter and a little more humid plus the product sat in the hot sun in the back of my truck. Do products behave differently after sitting in the sun? Could the product be unusable and have to be replaced?
 
Re: A tip for working with waxes, paint sealants or coatings that are new to you

Mike,I personally don't remember a wax,sealant,coating that should be applied "Thick"?
 
Good advice,

Last weekend, I applied a coat of 915........to my whole car, before wiping anything off. I have used it once or twice before, and it was really easy to work with, both on and off. The prior uses, I did one or two panels at a time, wiping off to completion. I was dumb enough to think it would translate into being able to do the entire car, take a short break, then wipe off............that was a lesson learned, the hard way. Still one of my favorite products........but I made an assumption, that cost me extra time and elbow grease.
 
Re: A tip for working with waxes, paint sealants or coatings that are new to you

Mike,I personally don't remember a wax,sealant,coating that should be applied "Thick"?


I don't either.... :laughing:

But I know how human beans think, especially when it comes to waxing their car....


IF a little is good... more is better....


:D
 
Re: A tip for working with waxes, paint sealants or coatings that are new to you

Do products behave differently after sitting in the sun?

Could the product be unusable and have to be replaced?

Well a good rule of thumb is to not expose your car care products to either extreme heat or extreme cold temperatures.


Good advice,

Last weekend, I applied a coat of 915........to my whole car, before wiping anything off.
I have used it once or twice before, and it was really easy to work with, both on and off. The prior uses, I did one or two panels at a time, wiping off to completion.

I was dumb enough to think it would translate into being able to do the entire car, take a short break, then wipe off............that was a lesson learned, the hard way.

Still one of my favorite products........but I made an assumption, that cost me extra time and elbow grease.


Well at least your arms got a good workout!


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Re: A tip for working with waxes, paint sealants or coatings that are new to you

I don't either.... :laughing:

But I know how human beans think, especially when it comes to waxing their car....


IF a little is good... more is better....


:D

Where were you when I was slathering on the wax back in the 80's? Removal was done with an old t-shirt by the way :cry:
 
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