A waterless wash question

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Ok. So I have read a few threads about waterless wash but need someone or Mike to help me off the ledge.

Here is my delima. I am a bucket of soap and water guy. I also live down a unpaved driveway. I recently bought a dark color new truck so today I polished,sealed and waxed my beautiful truck. The issue is after slowly creeping down my drive I do tend to get a very fine layer of dust on the vehicle. I do wash my truck every weekend and would never use a waterless wash on a dirty truck with road grime and etc.....but I would like a pretty truck in between washes I would probably only use the waterless wash about once a week between normal washes.

The last thing I want to do is scratch my paint and get swirls doing this. Do y’all think I would be ok or should I not take a chance.

Thanks,
Brian
 
If you touch it, you will scratch it. You are lucky if you get a chance to wash every week, I personally wouldn’t touch it between proper washes.
 
Why not rinseless instead. Leave the roof to the weekly wash and just go around the vehicle with rinseless. Try it once and I think you will see what I mean.
 
ducksfan said:
Why not rinseless instead. Leave the roof to the weekly wash and just go around the vehicle with rinseless. Try it once and I think you will see what I mean.
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I will definitely look into it thx
 
Oh, one more thing. Either way you go, I would get a hand pump sprayer to spray ahead of where youre washing to break up the surface tension. It can't hurt and I think it makes for a safer wash.
 
ducksfan said:
Why not rinseless instead. Leave the roof to the weekly wash and just go around the vehicle with rinseless. Try it once and I think you will see what I mean.
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ducksfan said:
Oh, one more thing. Either way you go, I would get a hand pump sprayer to spray ahead of where youre washing to break up the surface tension. It can't hurt and I think it makes for a safer wash.
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Great advice.
 
Lots of waterless solution and lots of good quality towels it can be done.


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Ok so update. After a hardcore detail on the truck the dust doesn’t seem to collect on it so fast. I’ve made multiple trips the last couple days and it’s still pretty darn clean to the point my ocd isn’t kicking in. So at this point I’m good until to the next car wash day. Thanks for the replies and advise.
 
I have a black car and I'm OCD as heck. I drive my wife crazy. Anyways, I live in a dusty and windy province so my car gathers a light layer of dust rather quickly. I do a lot of waterless/rinseless washes. Using a combination of both is the best method.

Here's the products I use:
  • Wolfgang Uber Rinseless wash dilution - 1/3oz : 1gal distilled water
  • WG Uber waterless wash dilution - 2/3oz : 32oz distilled water
  • The Rag Company Eagle Edgeless 500 microfibres
  • The Rag Company Creature or Spectrum 420 microfibres

Method:
  1. Spray panel with waterless wash solution.
  2. Soak microfiber in rinseless wash solution, wring out so it's still completely soaked through but slightly dripping.
  3. Fold twice (which gives you 8 sides) and wipe in one direction using 1 half of first side, wipe again on same side using second half of that side.
  4. Finish panel flipping to clean sides when needed. You will have 8 sides with one microfibre that can work as 16 sides doing it this way. Use really good microfibres though like the eagle edgeless 500.
  5. Take a dry microfiber (I use my creature or spectrums) and lightly wipe the panel you just washed. Basically this is like using a detail spray at this point as the WG Uber is also a QD (crazy awesome product btw). Or you could also spray panel with a drying agent like Megs d156 before wiping up.
  6. Complete the rest of your panels this way.

An extra tip,

I will take a few towels soaked in the rinseless solution and wipe some specific spots that collect dust and dirt easily. The edges around the windshield, the edges around the windows where there is chrome trim or some sort of trim, the little groove on hood in between hood and pillar, trim/rubber that is between bottom of rear windshield and trunk, and the bottom section of windshield under the wipers. I find these spots collect more dust quicker so I like to wipe them right at the beginning so my microfibres are much less contaminated while doing the panels. I usually only need 1 to do all those spots and you are barely touching any paint on those spots as well.

I have great success with this method. Even when doing a traditional bucket wash you are still touching the paint and therefore you will enduce light scratching to some degree. I guess thats where a pre-soak with a foam and pressure rinse also helps to get rid of as much dirt before the contact wash.

An advantage to this rinseless/waterless wash method is you can do in the sun and in high heat as you are only doing one panel at a time and using distilled water. I have the evening sun on my driveway so it's really difficult to wash without getting water spots. I can't wait to get my water softener system put in.
 
Bacovish said:
Ok. So I have read a few threads about waterless wash but need someone or Mike to help me off the ledge.

Here is my delima. I am a bucket of soap and water guy. I also live down a unpaved driveway. I recently bought a dark color new truck so today I polished,sealed and waxed my beautiful truck. The issue is after slowly creeping down my drive I do tend to get a very fine layer of dust on the vehicle. I do wash my truck every weekend and would never use a waterless wash on a dirty truck with road grime and etc.....but I would like a pretty truck in between washes I would probably only use the waterless wash about once a week between normal washes.

The last thing I want to do is scratch my paint and get swirls doing this. Do y’all think I would be ok or should I not take a chance.
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I'm very opinionated as I do a lot of rinseless washing, especially in the winter both on my person vehicles and others. Zero issues. I stand by the fact that a true waterless technique using a sprayed down panel and dry rag is fine for dust before a cars and coffee event but honestly, I never touch my car with a dry rag. I ALWAYS use damp rags even to dry my car.

It's all about technique. Even with a bucket wash, there's no need to scrub. Just wipe to break the dirt loose and onto the rag. Wipe and roll and never wipe with the same area twice. I use a modified Gary Dean Technique and when really dirty, my rinseless involves about 1.5 to 2gals distilled water per car. I can and do in the non-winter months use less and perhaps use a spray bottle vs a dedicated sprayer but it depends on the conditions.

I also stand by the fact that a ceramic coating will help too. There are many advantages that they offer.

  • Vehicle stays cleaner longer since dirt is less likely to adhere
  • Dirt comes off way easier and thus more safely as it doesn't bond to the surface as much
  • Their hydrophobic properties allow dirt to wash off when sprayed thus less dirt on the car when rinseless washing.
  • Coatings are hard - use a good one and put 1-2 layers on

Opinions will vary but I've had and still do have black cars, including a pure black Audi and had zero issues marring my paint. IMO most marring is induced on drying not washing.
 
To OP - I was a bucket guy forever. Just couldn't believe that rinseless/waterless was safe. I finally got up the courage to try rinseless, and I will (almost) never go back. I use WG Uber and presoak the panels, and I firmly believe this is as safe as a bucket if the car isn't too dirty. It's also far less time consuming. If you follow directions and ensure you are using a clean towel surface, you should be good. I haven't seen any ill effects from the rw method on my moderately dirty cars. I'd give it a shot regardless of frequency of washes. Just my .02.


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jdgamble said:
To OP - I was a bucket guy forever. Just couldn't believe that rinseless/waterless was safe. I finally got up the courage to try rinseless, and I will (almost) never go back. I use WG Uber and presoak the panels, and I firmly believe this is as safe as a bucket if the car isn't too dirty. It's also far less time consuming. If you follow directions and ensure you are using a clean towel surface, you should be good. I haven't seen any ill effects from the rw method on my moderately dirty cars. I'd give it a shot regardless of frequency of washes. Just my .02.


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I couldn't agree with this more.
 
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