? About WolfGang Deep Gloss Paint Sealant

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I just recieved my order and my free sample is WGDGPS. My question is, after I apply the sealant, can I apply collonite 845 after the sealant? Thanks.
 
Ideally you would let the WGDGPS cure for 12-24 hours before the Collinite...but it wouldn't be the end of the world if you topped it in less time than that.
 
you have to let the sealant cure, but once it is cured, you sure can apply a wax, such as 845
 
It would be best to wait 8-12 hours for the Wolfgang to bond. But why top with 845? The Wolfgang alone looks great! And two coats are even better.
 
Ive read a lot of people applying a wax after a sealant for extra protection. Winter is around the corner so I'm preparing the car for an ugly winter. Thanks for all the input.
 
EddieF said:
Ive read a lot of people applying a wax after a sealant for extra protection. Winter is around the corner so I'm preparing the car for an ugly winter. Thanks for all the input.
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I would just do another coat of WGDGPS then. That's what I do with my truck, and it easily lasts from August-April. My truck is also outside 24/7, and I live in a place that averages 200inches of snow each winter.

If you really want to top with 845 then I would wait the 12hrs. Give the second coat of WGDGPS a try though, I think you'll be as equally happy.:xyxthumbs:
 
Chris's FX4 said:
I would just do another coat of WGDGPS then. That's what I do with my truck, and it easily lasts from August-April. My truck is also outside 24/7, and I live in a place that averages 200inches of snow each winter.

If you really want to top with 845 then I would wait the 12hrs. Give the second coat of WGDGPS a try though, I think you'll be as equally happy.:xyxthumbs:
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Sounds like a plan. Is it ok to use a spray wax, like xmt 360 down the road after a wash?
 
Sorry for being a noob, by two coats you mean wait for 12-24 hours and then re apply. Not right away? Correct.
 
Lakhum said:
Sorry for being a noob, by two coats you mean wait for 12-24 hours and then re apply. Not right away? Correct.
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For the "sisters", WG Deep Liquid Sealant or BFCS, you only need to wait 1-2 hours for the sealant to bond - then apply an additional coat. I've checked this information out with Todd & Nick who both confirm this. (keep in mind that Todd is the Development Mgr for BF) No need to wait that long. BTW, I just applied 4 coats of the new WG Liquid Sealant - it's fantastic.
 
addysdaddy said:
For the "sisters", WG Deep Liquid Sealant or BFCS, you only need to wait 1-2 hours for the sealant to bond - then apply an additional coat. I've checked this information out with Todd & Nick who both confirm this. (keep in mind that Todd is the Development Mgr for BF) No need to wait that long. BTW, I just applied 4 coats of the new WG Liquid Sealant - it's fantastic.
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Autogeek.net and Wolfgangcarcare.com suggest that in order to achieve a slick, durable finish, Wolfgang Deep Gloss Paint Sealant 3.0 must cure for at least 12-24 hours (depending upon humidity) curing time before another coat.

By the way 4 coats is a over kill and waste of product :)
 
Lakhum said:
Sorry for being a noob, by two coats you mean wait for 12-24 hours and then re apply. Not right away? Correct.
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addysdaddy said:
For the "sisters", WG Deep Liquid Sealant or BFCS, you only need to wait 1-2 hours for the sealant to bond - then apply an additional coat. I've checked this information out with Todd & Nick who both confirm this. (keep in mind that Todd is the Development Mgr for BF) No need to wait that long. BTW, I just applied 4 coats of the new WG Liquid Sealant - it's fantastic.
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I think Lakhum was referencing Deep Gloss Paint Sealant, not Liquid Seal. In which case yes, at least 12hrs is the minimum cure time for WGDGPS.
 
Yeah I was referring about the WGDGPS. How many coats do you think is the threshold, from when you cant get any more protection as well as the look?
 
Lakhum said:
Yeah I was referring about the WGDGPS. How many coats do you think is the threshold, from when you cant get any more protection as well as the look?
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I've never gone past two coats, but I would say three might be the threshold.

The look from one coat to two coats is noticeable to my eye, especially after the cure time.
 
EddieF said:
I just recieved my order and my free sample is WGDGPS. My question is, after I apply the sealant, can I apply collonite 845 after the sealant? Thanks.
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Are samples 2oz or 4oz? Gonna get the WDGPS sample with my next order.
 
I'm a total noob, but this past weekend I found the courage to put in work with the products I've aquired. After polishing and all, I laid the WGDGPS and continued to wait till it hazed. I buffed the haze off with a MF towel and added wax immediatly after.

My question is, can I get away with this? What steps do I need to correct the longevity of the sealant, or will it even be affected?
 
EddieF said:
I just recieved my order and my free sample is WGDGPS. My question is, after I apply the sealant, can I apply collonite 845 after the sealant? Thanks.
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This brings up a very good question, and one that I've spent much time thinking about. I'm not a professional detailer; just an avid car enthusiast. However, after reading many posts and talking to different detailers here locally, they all agree that in order for a product (wax or sealant) to adequately adhere to a paint's surface and obtain the most durability and lifespan from that product, the paint must be cleaned and all impurities removed prior to application. I think we all agree with that statement.

Here is where I get confused and maybe someone can fill me in and correct me if I am wrong. Once your sealant has been applied (in this case, WDGPS), and cured to the paint's surface, any product applied after that (in this case, 845) is actually being applied to the surface of the sealant, and not directly onto the paint. So, I don't see how the 845 will adequately adhere to the paint surface if a based product is already adhered to the paint's surface. I just don't see how the 845 or any other product can hold up very long if it's trying to bond to a silicone based product such as WDGPS.

I like the concept and I do this myself, but I've often wondered if I'm wasting 845.

Just my thoughts and by no means am I arguing the point; just hoping to get clarification.

thanks all,
 
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