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I currently own a Griots Garrage. I was thinking of upgrading to the Griots Boss g15. Is this on par with the Rupes an Flex polisher?

Im not a professional. I just do this on the Weekend..

Feed back please
 
I had a Gen 1 Porter Cable, then purchased a GG6 after the PC spent 12 hrs under salt water...Then, "because it was on sale":dunno:I picked up a Flex 3401. My only regret is why in the world did I wait soooooo long...
Can't speak for the g15, but anything to make correction go faster is worth it to me.
I'm a weekend warrior as well...
 
There is a great thread on this exact topic, GG vs Rupes. If I can be bold enough to summarize a few points:

1) For the most part it came down to preference. A lot of GG fans and a lot of Rupes fans.
2) Warranty was another factor and there were some that leaned toward GG's warranty as the sort of the tie breaker.
3) Another tie breaker for some was going with the originator of the large throw - therefore the Rupes.

I started with the PC and then went with the Flex 3401 and then added a GG 3" and then a Rupes 75 mini. I really like the feel of the Rupes and recently ordered the Rupes 15 Mark II which will arrive on Tuesday.
 
goldenlight said:
I currently own a Griots Garrage. I was thinking of upgrading to the Griots Boss g15. Is this on par with the Rupes an Flex polisher?

Im not a professional. I just do this on the Weekend..

Feed back please
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They are both solid machines and you can't go wrong with either one (Rupes/Griots). The new Rupes Mark II now have the edge on power but I still prefer the ergonomics, comfort, and fast start of the BOSS tools. If you get a chance to try both before buying that would be your best bet.
 
I just upgraded from the PC 'style' (PC, GG6, MT300) to the Rupes LHR 15 Mark II and I LOVE IT! Such a smooth machine, with lots of correcting power.

I cannot speak to the Rupes vs. Boss, as I have only worked with the Rupes (older and Mark II).

I picked mine up locally a few weeks ago, and the dealer threw in some extra goodies.
 
mc2hill said:
I just upgraded from the PC 'style' (PC, GG6, MT300) to the Rupes LHR 15 Mark II and I LOVE IT! Such a smooth machine, with lots of correcting power.

I cannot speak to the Rupes vs. Boss, as I have only worked with the Rupes (older and Mark II).

I picked mine up locally a few weeks ago, and the dealer threw in some extra goodies.
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With the Rupes 15 Mark II, did you end up going with the Rupes pads, LC HD, B&S Low-Pro?
 
RaskyR1 said:
They are both solid machines and you can't go wrong with either one (Rupes/Griots). The new Rupes Mark II now have the edge on power but I still prefer the ergonomics, comfort, and fast start of the BOSS tools. If you get a chance to try both before buying that would be your best bet.
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You did a great video review on the Boss too!
 
Not that it really matters, but since you're already familiar with Griots machines, the G15 will keep you "in the family" so to speak.

Performance wise, the G15, like the GG6 is a random orbit machine, and will probably be much more comfortable for you to use, while still delivering increased performance capabilities from the GG6.

The Flex 3401 is a true dual action machine, where gears placed in the spindle housing, and on the back plate eliminate the free spinning effect found on GG6/G15 type machines. This machine can handle downward pressure, allowing for increased cutting abilities, they also polish, and wax effectively as well.

Transitioning from the GG6 to either the G15, or 3401 - I would imagine you would have a much easier time transitioning to the G15. Not the the 3401 isn't an awesome piece of machinery, it just takes some getting used to by comparison.

You can relegate the GG6 to be used with smaller pads and/or brush attachments if you desire to keep it.
 
IMHO performance/results has a lot to do with technique and pad selection. With good technique and pads you can achieve awesome results with almost any machine.
 
Ebg18t said:
IMHO performance/results has a lot to do with technique and pad selection. With good technique and pads you can achieve awesome results with almost any machine.
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IMHO :dblthumb2:
 
I recently upgraded to the mark ii 21 and absolutely love it. I use both rotary and finished off with a pc7424. I can't say anything about the boss because I haven't tried it, however I'm considering purchasing a g15 to compare and it never hurts to have extra on hand. As far pads go, I use the Rupes system. I love their pads and compounds. They work great for me. Their UHS system is my favorite right now. However I also use the LC 6.5 pads with Meg's 101 and 205 and also get amazing results. Waiting for 5inch backing plate though. From a warranty stand point I'd opt for griots garage which is why I plan on a g15. But then I want to see how the new flex da performs....
 
I went with the GG21 because it was cheaper, more powerful, and newer than the Rupes 21 at the time. But currently, (if I were to be in the same position as before) I'd go with the newer more powerful Rupes 21 (v2).

Here's some things I don't like about the Boss:
The backing plate is black so its hard to mark (I just watch the cooling holes on the side)
The speed selector doesn't seem to change anything past speed 3.5/4.

Other than those two minor things I really like the Boss. I didn't notice more pad spin than I had with my PC-7424xp but that could be due the backing plate not being marked on my G21 (used the washer). The G21 it almost feels less powerful than my PC-7424xp but that's because it runs so much smoother... I also noticed a huge reduction in pad heat compared to the PC but I always felt that more heat = more friction/abrasion (obviously I'm wrong but that's the impression I got).
 
4u2nvinmtl said:
I went with the GG21 because it was cheaper, more powerful, and newer than the Rupes 21 at the time. But currently, (if I were to be in the same position as before) I'd go with the newer more powerful Rupes 21 (v2).

Here's some things I don't like about the Boss:
The backing plate is black so its hard to mark (I just watch the cooling holes on the side)
The speed selector doesn't seem to change anything past speed 3.5/4.

Other than those two minor things I really like the Boss. I didn't notice more pad spin than I had with my PC-7424xp but that could be due the backing plate not being marked on my G21 (used the washer). The G21 it almost feels less powerful than my PC-7424xp but that's because it runs so much smoother... I also noticed a huge reduction in pad heat compared to the PC but I always felt that more heat = more friction/abrasion (obviously I'm wrong but that's the impression I got).
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Silver Sharpie. ;)
 
4u2nvinmtl said:
I went with the GG21 because it was cheaper, more powerful, and newer than the Rupes 21 at the time. But currently, (if I were to be in the same position as before) I'd go with the newer more powerful Rupes 21 (v2).

Here's some things I don't like about the Boss:
The backing plate is black so its hard to mark (I just watch the cooling holes on the side)
The speed selector doesn't seem to change anything past speed 3.5/4.

Other than those two minor things I really like the Boss. I didn't notice more pad spin than I had with my PC-7424xp but that could be due the backing plate not being marked on my G21 (used the washer). The G21 it almost feels less powerful than my PC-7424xp but that's because it runs so much smoother... I also noticed a huge reduction in pad heat compared to the PC but I always felt that more heat = more friction/abrasion (obviously I'm wrong but that's the impression I got).
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Like rask said silver sharpie, mask it off and spray paint a white line, that's what I did.

I can't polish any da free spinning machine without a mark, I need to know how fast that plate is spinning !
 
dlc95 said:
Not that it really matters, but since you're already familiar with Griots machines, the G15 will keep you "in the family" so to speak.

Performance wise, the G15, like the GG6 is a random orbit machine, and will probably be much more comfortable for you to use, while still delivering increased performance capabilities from the GG6.

The Flex 3401 is a true dual action machine, where gears placed in the spindle housing, and on the back plate eliminate the free spinning effect found on GG6/G15 type machines. This machine can handle downward pressure, allowing for increased cutting abilities, they also polish, and wax effectively as well.

Transitioning from the GG6 to either the G15, or 3401 - I would imagine you would have a much easier time transitioning to the G15. Not the the 3401 isn't an awesome piece of machinery, it just takes some getting used to by comparison.

You can relegate the GG6 to be used with smaller pads and/or brush attachments if you desire to keep it.
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:iagree:

If you are not a professional, the Flex is probably more tool than you will ever need. It is a lot more difficult to use in the respect since it is a direct drive unit, it can be hard to handle.

Either of the Griots Boss tools or the new or old Rupes tools are worthy upgrades to the GG6. I prefer the Rupes simply because I prefer NOT to purchase things manufactured in China if I can.
 
4u2nvinmtl said:
I went with the GG21 because it was cheaper, more powerful, and newer than the Rupes 21 at the time. But currently, (if I were to be in the same position as before) I'd go with the newer more powerful Rupes 21 (v2).

Here's some things I don't like about the Boss:
The backing plate is black so its hard to mark (I just watch the cooling holes on the side)
The speed selector doesn't seem to change anything past speed 3.5/4.

Other than those two minor things I really like the Boss. I didn't notice more pad spin than I had with my PC-7424xp but that could be due the backing plate not being marked on my G21 (used the washer). The G21 it almost feels less powerful than my PC-7424xp but that's because it runs so much smoother... I also noticed a huge reduction in pad heat compared to the PC but I always felt that more heat = more friction/abrasion (obviously I'm wrong but that's the impression I got).
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It might be that your technique/pad choice/product choice with the PC is benefitting your results. There have been a few times that I switched from a more powerful tool to bring the PC back to work.
 
Ebg18t said:
IMHO performance/results has a lot to do with technique and pad selection. With good technique and pads you can achieve awesome results with almost any machine.
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110% agree.
 
goldenlight said:
I currently own a Griots Garrage. I was thinking of upgrading to the Griots Boss g15. Is this on par with the Rupes an Flex polisher?

Im not a professional. I just do this on the Weekend..

Feed back please
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since you already own a GG6 (great polisher btw) pair it with a G15 and/or G21 (packs plenty of power)... :dblthumb2:
 
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