I currently used Poorboys PwS and loved it. I used it with a LC orange pad and it took out some light scratches and left and awsome shine. I am now currently running down to my last drops and want to know if the XMT360 would be worth trying over the PwS. Im putting my order in soon so plz convince me to buy one or the other. Feedback on both items please.
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Gary Sword
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I have not tried PwS but I just tried XMT 360 for the first time and was amazed at it's ability to remove scraches and the finish it left on the car.
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ejflanag said:
It wipes of real easy if fact after it breaks down there's not much left of it.
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The XMT 360 contains abrasives where PwS does not. They are both AIOs but I see them as pretty different products. I haven't tried XMT360 but I do know that PwS is very versitile whether you use it by hand, PC, rotary, with a finishing pad, polishing pad, or cutting pad... it'll cut the swirls, leave the finish very slick, won't dust, add protection, clean the paint, won't fill in swirls when used as a polish, etc. From the pictures I've seen about XMT360, you can't go wrong with it either.
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You are quite right, if anyone is in doubt, i'll come over and prove it to you on your freshly polished car:awesome:mmmmmmm mister banana man loves thousands of tiny scratches.dengood1 said:I beg to differ: The PWS has light abrasives in it, hence the name Poorboys Sealant with Polish. They may be light, but they're there I think. Maybe I'm wrong
I have induced many swirls when I applied PwS by hand, maybe i'm a noob, but i didn't seem to master it by hand. But, the rotary and PC are another discussion, it works great with them.
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dengood1 said:I beg to differ: The PWS has light abrasives in it, hence the name Poorboys Sealant with Polish. They may be light, but they're there I think. Maybe I'm wrong
Just because the name says polish doesn't mean it has abrasives. Zaino calls their sealants polishes... I don't think there are abrasives in that... Poorboy's also has the Pro Polish which also doesn't have abrasives. Everything that touches paint is going to be somewhat abrasive, whether it is an applicatior pad, your finger, a polish, a wash mitt, etc.
BetaB said:
By hand PwS will act as a sealant and glaze. It won't be removing any swirls marks = no abrasives. It may fill a little because that is the nature of sealants and waxes, the minimal amount left on the paint will fill the valley of the swirls making it look like it is gone. You inducing swirls could have been from a dirty applicator, an rough applicator, a dirty vehicle or the swirls could have always been on the car and now you are noticing them... They could have been hidden by whatever wax you used before and the PwS stripped that showing you the swirls. Stick your fingers into the PwS and rub the polish between your fingers... feel any grit? Compare that to a strong polish- XMT3 or SSR2.5, etc. Big difference.
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XMT 360 is a must for every enthusiast! I'm ordering some myself, thinking about a 32 oz bottle.ejflanag said:
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Ya i looked into the 32oz bottle its either on sale or is just priced right either way i was satisfied with the price i had seen. im going to try and go with the 360.
So does the 360 remove swirls and light scratches if used with the right pad cause iknow its pad dependent.
So does the 360 remove swirls and light scratches if used with the right pad cause iknow its pad dependent.
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budman3 said:
I just received an email from Steve at Poorboys....and the verdict is:
there are micro-abrasives that cannot be felt by hand along with chemical cleaners
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Steve
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Just wanted to clarify for everyone without misleading, but apparently there are abrasives......just very small.
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dengood1 said:
It's grest when someone form the manufacturer replies to questions.
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dengood1 said:
Good call, thanks for the clairifaction. I am no scientist. I led my assumptions that it wasn't abrasive by the finger test as well as working with the product. When I hear of abrasives I think of a gritty feeling product that'll cut through the clear coat. With my experiences with PwS, the product itself will not do damage to the paint, but other things may, like the applicator, pad, dirt on the car, or swirls already being there.
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Uh, yes I do... I have actually been using it for about a year and a half now... I was able to test out this product out while they were still making it. I could supply pictures if you still don't believe me. I still don't believe that PwS induced the swirls into your paint- it was some other factor while you were using it.
Gary- Steve at PB World is a great guy who makes and sells great products. Very easy to contact whether it is by e-mail or phone.
Since the thread says all in ones. I am trying to decide between XMT360 and the Poly seal. Am I correct that 360 can do correction where as Poly can not? Or are they the same type of products. I am trying to get a fast turn around time...I was thinking about one of the new AIO's and top it with the new Oti seal.