Alternative to OPC?

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It seems that OPC is still considered the best, most safe overall APC on the market. I have some Meguiar's D107 on hand, which is fine, but looking for something like OPC that claims to be much more safe, for users and environment that is readily available. Or should I just keep ordering OPC?
 
Since joining AG back in Feb of 2012, THIS is the single product I continually buy when I'm running low on it. Sure, I've bought Purple Power but use that around the house and sometimes just to see how it compares to "Alien Kleen" for car cleaning duties and while PP @1:1 is good and less expensive, Alien Kleen @3:1 just does a better job.

For whatever reason this is ONE product I'll be buying as long as it's being made

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Thanks! I'm going to continue to use it. It's one of those products you always hear positive things about.
 
NJNinja said:
I'm going to continue to use it.

It's one of those products you never
hear anything but good things.
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Is it too late to suggest alternatives?
If not:

•Here are couple that come to mind:
-McKee's 37 Hi-Intensity APC Plus
-Meguiar's D101 All Purpose Cleaner


•And for those “sickening” detail jobs:
-Spray Nine Heavy Duty Cleaner +De-
greaser +Disinfectant


Bob
 
Thanks! Is the Megiuars D101 as "safe" as the OPC? For some reason, probably their marketing, I associate OPC as more eco friendly and overall safer on more surfaces. Hard to say I guess....
 
NJNinja said:
Thanks! Is the Megiuars D101 as "safe" as the OPC? For some reason, probably their marketing, I associate OPC as more eco friendly and overall safer on more surfaces. Hard to say I guess....
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pH wise, OPC is closer to neutral than D101 (11.5 vs 13)
 
Just about any APC can be considered pH neutral if they are diluted enough. Cleaners are considered pH neutral if they are in the pH range of 6 to 8. Meguiars D101 is an excellent APC but it is very alkaline in concentrate. It has a pH of 13 and diluted 10:1 the pH goes down to 11.95. That is still a strong cleaner and very effective but it may not be safe for certain delicate interior surfaces.
Simple Green is a safe, pH neutral cleaner that works very well for general dust, scuffs and dirt. In concentrate, it has a pH range of 8.5-9.2. Diluted 10:1 the pH goes down to 7.95 if we assume an original value of 9.0.
Bob mentioned Spray Nine and that is an excellent cleaner that also kills the COVID virus. The pH range is 12-12.8. After my car was destroyed in the wreck my company gave me a rental from Enterprise. They had a sign that said they "cleaned" and "disinfected" the surfaces with Clorox wipes. I saw food stains all over the console and the radio dial. That car got a full cleaning with straight Spray Nine and I did not care one bit about being pH neutral.
 
It appears OPC is known for its cleaning ability that doesn’t solely come from its high pH which is only around 11.


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You can also use it on painted surfaces.


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NJNinja said:
It appears OPC is known for its cleaning ability that doesn’t solely come from its high pH which is only around 11.


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It's done everything I've asked of it @3:1, so this is why I make a gallon at a time w/ that ratio (distilled water used for longevity)

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If it is working for you then invest in it again. If it ain't broke, don't fix it.
 
The Guz said:
If it is working for you then invest in it again. If it ain't broke, don't fix it.
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When it comes to this particular product I couldn't agree more!

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Ingredient C.A.S. No. % by Wt
Water 7732-18-5 75 - 95 Trade Secret *
Sodium Metasilicate 6834-92-0 1 - 5 Trade Secret *
d-Limonene 5989-27-5 < 0.3 Trade Secret *
Orange Oils 8008-57-9 < 0.3 Trade Secret *

Meg D107 is using d-Limonene.

You don't see many reviews on D107.
 
I really like the IGL APC, its soy based and has been working great for me

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I still have a few gallons of 3D Total. Great stuff, mild enough to use on anything.

Unfortunately, no longer made.
 
DUBL0WS6 said:
I was under the impression that soy was somewhat acidic.
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Most soy based products are slightly alkaline in the pH range of 9-10. There are a lot of soy based cleaners and degreasers on the market and more companies are capitalizing on green chemistry. Check out companies like SoySolv, Misco, EcoMax, Global Specialty Products.
 
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