APC+ paint and wheel safety?

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Emile

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On the gallon bottle of APC+, it says that the product is safe on glass and clear plastic, but how about paint?

I see some detailers use it at 10:1 to clean up trim and emblems and stuff. I use it at 8:1 on rims and tires during an ONR wash and I just assume it's okay because I have read a lot of other people use it up to 4:1 on wheels. I go 8:1 for just a bit more cleaning power than I would need for the interior, but still want it to be spray-and-wipe during those rinseless washes.

Can it be used at 10:1 or a stronger dilution for degreasing/cleaning paint and wheels? Or is this not recommended?

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Emile
 
I use megs regular APC at 10:1 on my paint with no problems. I first rinse the car so it does not dry on the paint but you should be fine.
 
i use APC/APC+ on paint, tires, wheels, etc,. as long as you don't let it dry on the surface and rinse immediately, you'll be fine...
 
As long as you dont let it dry on the paint, then if you can spray it you can clean it with APC+
 
How long does it take to get dry? I always use this product at 4:1 to clean my wheel wells...I spray it, let it sit and work for a couple of minutes while I clean the wheel and then rinse it all away and move onto the next wheel & wheel well. Never seen it dry up on me.
 
I use APC/APC+ in all different dilutions on everything in and around the house including stains on clothes, paint, rubber, painted aluminum on the camper, and have never had a trouble. I have never let it dry either. Just spray it on, let it soak, scrub away, rinse and dry.
 
Emile said:
How long does it take to get dry? I always use this product at 4:1 to clean my wheel wells...I spray it, let it sit and work for a couple of minutes while I clean the wheel and then rinse it all away and move onto the next wheel & wheel well. Never seen it dry up on me.
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Drying will depend on air temp and surface temp. But a few mins is not going to be a issue unless the car surface is blazing hot.
 
I used 10:1 to quick clean my wheels yesterday and it left some residue, the step of "rinse afterwards" is pretty important.
 
JCruiza, if I'm doing an ONR wash and doing the wheels, I will spray the rim and tire with APC+ 8:1 very lightly (my focus is on the tires) and then I will brush the rim with a wheel brush that is dipped in and out of the ONR/water solution. Then I brush the tires with a tire brush dipped in and out of ONR/water solution. Finally, I will towel-dry the rim and tire immediately before moving onto the next wheel. Brushing with the ONR/water solution and brushes washes off most of the APC+ and the towel will pickup any remaining product. I do not get any residue this way. Also, I do not spray the wheel barrels with APC+ during an indoor ONR wash because there is just no way I can reach inside the entire wheel with a towel. APC+ at 10:1 (or 8:1 in my case) is spray-and-wipe, but the keyword being wipe otherwise it will leave some streakiness.
 
Thanks for the advice, I've always done a full wash on the wheels but yesterday I just wanted to give them a quick clean since I was only QD'ing the paint and didn't want to spend the time grabbing the hose and bucket, hence only APC+'ing them and not knowing how to properly ONR-wash them.
 
Btw, does mixing a product with water change the ph level of the total formula?

APC+ has a ph level of 13.4 which is extremely high alkaline...on par with concrete/warehouse/industrial degreasers. I am assuming that mixing 4:1 with water brings the final product ph level way down.

Here is my math, based on ph level of water (7) and ph level of APC+ (13.4) on a 4:1 ratio: 7+7+7+7+13.4=41.4 divided by 5 total parts = 8.28 total product ph level which is only slightly alkaline. Is this correct?
 
pH is a log function of H+ concentration, pH=-log(H+), so dont think you can do it the way you said, maybe you can. But, it has been 4 years sinse i took chem. :( haha
 
Yeah, thanks agpatel, I did some research and what you said was correct. I just finished college in May so I'm not even going to bother trying to figure it out exactly with the log functions.
 
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