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If you have not had the chance to try some of Pinnacle's, Wolfgang's, BlackFire's shampoos, I would recommend giving them a shot. I know some might immediately look for the best bang for the buck and start calculating cost per ounce, but looks/numbers can be decieving at first if you don't look close enough. Half an ounce per wash, per Pinnacle's instruction's, is pretty good. If I had to pick which product doesn't get enough love, or get talked about enough on these forums what would it be?

I would choose PBMG's Soaps/Shampoos, specifically, Pinnacle Bodywork Shampoo. It's gentle, yet effective and has just enough bubbles to confirm lubricity (if you are one of those that has to see bubbles to wash safely & I used to be in that crowd), and rinses insanely easy & quick, don't need to use a lot, and smells like a high quality product.
While other brand's soaps get talked about a lot more here, as a trend, generally I've noticed that those soaps are harder to rinse, especially some, require more per gallon of water, and are more prone to leaving water spots even though spots are caused by water & not the soap. Currently, I'm using-up another brand's soap that came in a gallon and I'm suprised how quickly I am going through it, and I realize it's because I am needing to use so much soap per wash.

Last summer, I purchased more soaps/shampoos than any man should buy which gave me an excellent chance to compare who is who & what's what. PBMG's soaps deserve to be called shampoos. Not all soaps are shampoos in my eyes. I see shampoos as on a higher level; a higher user-experience level that provides benefits you weren't even expecting. One of my favorite unexpected benefits is the amount of water & time that I save on the rinse.

I bought these bottles with my own money & wanted to pass along what excellent shampoos they are to those who have passed on them for reasons that I may have addressed. I passed on them for a long time, but eventually gave them a shot, and am glad that I did.
 
All the reasons I love Hyper Shampoo, especially at a 1/3 of the price of Pinnacle. I'm not one to buy cheap but I draw lines in the sand when we talk $50 a gallon for soap
 
I've used some of them via samples: Wolfgang, Blackfire, & Pinnacle. They're nice - but so are a lot of others out there at a fraction of the price: Duragloss, Optimum, Poorboys, & Chemical Guys. TBH, I really only use rinseless products these days. They work better & are faster regardless what method you are using to wash your car.
 
I do like the PBMG soaps, and use them because I have them. I don’t have Hyperwash. They are expensive but they do work very well, compared to some cheaper options I have (but again, I don’t have the most talked about cheaper options). Nonetheless, for what the OP is trying to say, and leaving comparison costs out of it, I agree they are good shampoos.
 
FUNX650 said:
IÂ’m curious as to what made you conclude
that these two car-wash products are so
very different from one another. TIA.



Bob
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Sure thing Bob,

The differences that I see are lubricity, ease of rinsing, water spotting, sudsing & texture.
The Hyperwash seems to try and offer the best bang for the buck product. Now, I am no chemist, so all I can refer to is characteristics. Hyperwash's lubricity, according to my experience, is below Pinnacle's. Hyperwash's rinsing ease is far below Pinnacle's, and Hyperwash is overflowing with suds, whereas Pinnacle's shampoo doesn't foam-up near as much. I like not having an over abundance of suds. I feel they require more rinsing, or at least the chemical that creates them may be difficult to rinse.
With Pinnacle's shampoo, I notice less water spotting. I'm a big fan of that.
Some have complained of Hyperwash's texture, saying it leaves behind an unwanted characteristic on wash media if it's not rinsed soon after a wash.
I hope that explains my perspective a bit.
I'm trying to encourage people to try these shampoos because cost per ounce seems to be king quite often, and I think that equation can hold us back from trying some really great products that we may have wished we could have tried sooner.
 
@expdetailing:

Thanks for taking the time to answer my
recent inquiry; your candor is appreciated.

Also:
Your encouragement/recommendation
will be taken into consideration.


Bob
 
While it may be an excellent shampoo, Pinnacle is way too expensive for me. Even though it does not seem to get a lot of love, I really like Jay Lenos Garage Vehicle Wash. Foams nice, good lubricity and rinses clean...although they could tone down the cherry scent a little
 
After I tried the WAX SHOP cherry foam soap, that was it for me! In the foam gun nothing comes close to the amount of foam produced. Same in the bucket. But foam does not make a good soap. The lubricity and cleaning ability are 10/10.

Wax Shop Cherry Snow Foam Car Wash 128 oz.
 
I like this thread. It makes some really good points.

However, I have not found any of the drawbacks you mentioned using HW. (Or OCW).

I find these to clean very, very well and have never experienced a problem with them rinsing clean.

A good point was brought up in another thread about the difference in the water quality between certain areas of the country.

I am thinking this is most certainly the cause of the varying results each member posts about one soap or the other.
 
Honestly all PBMG shampoos have always been top notch. Some have a bit different properties than others and usually work nicely with their line of waxes/sealants. ALL work well and I like some a bit better than others.


That being said, I don’t buy them anymore as there are other options out there FOR ME that work just as well if not better and are more economical.
 
Dr Oldz said:
Honestly all PBMG shampoos have always been top notch. Some have a bit different properties than others and usually work nicely with their line of waxes/sealants. ALL work well and I like some a bit better than others.


That being said, I don’t buy them anymore as there are other options out there FOR ME that work just as well if not better and are more economical.
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What soaps do you like to use?
 
If you think pinnacle soap is expensive dont even look at the price of polish angel glasscoat shampoo per ounce
 
I never have a problem with any soap rinsing clean and I always use more then you need in my foam gun. I like to add some n914 to the soap bucket or uber
 
I’ve always associated ‘shampoos’ with having lots of foam & suds. I consider ‘soaps’ to be more ordinary and lacking luxurious suds.

Not once in my life have I ever struggled to rinse off a car after a wash.
 
fightnews said:
If you think pinnacle soap is expensive dont even look at the price of polish angel glasscoat shampoo per ounce
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Ridiculous, isnt it? 200ml for $35 and at recommended dilution of 3oz/90ml per 5 gallons, that's a pretty pricey wash experience!
 
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