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Im trying to find a liquid wax option that yields fair results. I feel that people who do not want to pay for a clay job on the vehicle waste my time and product if I use anything better than liquid wax. This type of person just wants quick shine on the cheap. So any tips on the best liquid wax for the money would be appreciated. I would dedicate a wax pad for the polisher to this job so I do not have to worry about any contaminates getting in my good wax jar from these beaters.
 
Meguiars M66, decent cleaning and cut, easy on and off, available at most Pepboys by the gallon. My favorite is Poorboys Polish with Sealant. You can get it in larger quantities, sun friendly and won't stain trim.
 
HD Poxy, great looks, reasonable durability, good value and a little goes a long way.

3D HD Poxy - Montan Wax & Sealant

Plus if you have a customer who wants an upgrade you can use HD Speed and top it with poxy, it's a great combo!
 
RPPM said:
Meguiars M66, decent cleaning and cut, easy on and off, available at most Pepboys by the gallon. My favorite is Poorboys Polish with Sealant. You can get it in larger quantities, sun friendly and won't stain trim.
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Does Pep Boys have a detailing forum?

Why not be fair to the sponsor of this forum?
 
I find spray wax as a cheap detailers way of doing it. I want to try and keep my integrity lol. I thought of using collinite 845 but have heard it's tough to remove compared to others. Im tryg to find something I can spread via machine then come right back and wipe off. I like the idea of not spending much time waxing this particular type of customers vehicle since they have no appreciation for true detailing
 
custmsprty said:
Does Pep Boys have a detailing forum?

Why not be fair to the sponsor of this forum?
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Not 'Pep' Boys. "Poorboy's" is what he said. Autogeek is a distributor of Poorboy's products, so I think he is being pretty fair to the sponsor of this forum. ;)
 
Detailsbydaniel said:
Im trying to find a liquid wax option that yields fair results. I feel that people who do not want to pay for a clay job on the vehicle waste my time and product if I use anything better than liquid wax. This type of person just wants quick shine on the cheap. So any tips on the best liquid wax for the money would be appreciated. I would dedicate a wax pad for the polisher to this job so I do not have to worry about any contaminates getting in my good wax jar from these beaters.
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If you want to go cheap and get decent results then I would go with either Meguiar's NXT or Meguiar's Ultimate Liquid Wax. I know they are kind of on opposite ends of the consumer product spectrum, but there are reasons. If they don't want to pay for clay, then they probably aren't paying for polish. I won't polish a car unless it is clayed, so that is built into my pricing. So the NXT may help clean up the paint a little more because of the small physical abrasives in it and the fillers that will help reduce the appearance of swirls (at least, for now). NXT doesn't look too bad either. It is actually one of the glossier products I've used off the shelf.

The Ultimate Liquid Wax is a much more durable product, but it really looks best when the surface has been properly prepped. So depending on what the car looks like to start with, I think this would be a more durable and marginally better looking choice.

Those are if you are just shopping locally, of course. If you are going for a low budget product to keep overhead low on a small profit margin job, then NXT is a good idea. Personally I use Pinnacle Liquid Souveran as my liquid wax of choice. I'll use other products too, but if I'm going for a liquid carnauba then it is LS all the way. It is amazing looking. But again, the wax/sealant is only as good as the prepwork. If you aren't going to clay or polish the paint then you can't really have very high expectations of the wax. Polishing a turd doesn't change the fact that it is just going to look like a shiny piece of crap. ;)
 
custmsprty said:
Does Pep Boys have a detailing forum?

Why not be fair to the sponsor of this forum?
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I wasn't trying to dismiss our forum provider, I was merely mentioning it could be purchased locally. Sometimes it makes more financial sense to purchase locally than to order online. Obviously, Poorboys can't be purchased locally, so I threw our forum sponsor a bone as well...
 
OCDetails said:
Not 'Pep' Boys. "Poorboy's" is what he said. Autogeek is a distributor of Poorboy's products, so I think he is being pretty fair to the sponsor of this forum. ;)
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Read it again, he said "Pep Boys"

Originally Posted by RPPM View Post
Meguiars M66, decent cleaning and cut, easy on and off, available at most Pepboys by the gallon.
 
Hands down Collinite 845! Easy on and off, great wet gloss, long term durability! A little goes a very long way!
 
I agree without the proper prep im just making a turd shine better. But if that's what they want against what I believe then I will give them what they want. I know this isn't the optimal idea of a customer but I live in a rural area and people don't care for vehicles correctly. We have a few that are willing to pay and appreciate solid work but it is very rare around these parts. But if I can make a quick 125 bucks and they are happy and come back then I consider it a win overall
 
Butters wetwax. Easy as hell to use, in fact wash the car, leave it wet and apply it with your wax pad. Skip the drying step. It can be applied wet or dry, then come back and buff it off.
 
Detailsbydaniel said:
Im trying to find a liquid wax option that yields fair results. I feel that people who do not want to pay for a clay job on the vehicle waste my time and product if I use anything better than liquid wax. This type of person just wants quick shine on the cheap. So any tips on the best liquid wax for the money would be appreciated. I would dedicate a wax pad for the polisher to this job so I do not have to worry about any contaminates getting in my good wax jar from these beaters.
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Detailsbydaniel said:
I find spray wax as a cheap detailers way of doing it. I want to try and keep my integrity lol. I thought of using collinite 845 but have heard it's tough to remove compared to others. Im tryg to find something I can spread via machine then come right back and wipe off. I like the idea of not spending much time waxing this particular type of customers vehicle since they have no appreciation for true detailing
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Detailsbydaniel said:
I agree without the proper prep im just making a turd shine better. But if that's what they want against what I believe then I will give them what they want. I know this isn't the optimal idea of a customer but I live in a rural area and people don't care for vehicles correctly. We have a few that are willing to pay and appreciate solid work but it is very rare around these parts. But if I can make a quick 125 bucks and they are happy and come back then I consider it a win overall
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I don't know, you're losing me here. The percentage of people who are going to pay for "solid work", as you put it, in any locale, is going to be very small. So you're going to be stuck doing the wash & wax jobs until you can develop a clientele of people who want to have their car polished, which may be never, in your rural area. But yet you want to take that customer that doesn't care, and that you clearly don't care about, and put a polisher on their car. Why?

How about shifting your perspective--and trying to differentiate yourself and at the same time make your job easier for the next time you wash this car (and maybe you will if you get above-average results). Since claying alone can frequently make a difference in the appearance of a vehicle, how about this method: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B0aLOJKKM1k

Perhaps instead of viewing these customers as "against what you believe", if you take the lemons they are giving you and give them back lemonade, you can enhance your reputation and maintain your "integrity", show them that you can give them better results than a "cheap detalier" and create loyal customers and expand your clientele.
 
Personally for great durability, very good appearance and very good value for money I'd use 845 BUT thats only on paint in great shape.. DA apply with black finishing pad and hand buff

For paint that has seen less care I'd also go with M66 . ie a little cleaning ability and a reasonable sealant.. it's gonna give a better end appearance due to the cleaning aspect for pretty much the same effort.. DA apply with light polishing pad and then hand buff
 
Optimum Car Wax is what I use on a lot of customer cars.

Yes, it's a spray wax, but is more like a spray sealant with Carnuba in it. Slick and glossy and quick and easy.

It's supposed to have good durability to it, but have never tested it.

I've never had a customer ask me why I didn't use a "traditional" style wax.
 
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