Best temp to keep wax ?

Lim3

Lim3

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I was on another forum and a guy said he keeps his wax in a fridge kept at 5-20 Celsius?
He said "
he has seen some waxes in higher temps evaporate,Or the oils move to the top "
 
I actually do the opposite, when it starts getting really cold here in Chicago I take all my good polishes, wax etc... From the garage and store in my crawl space for the winter, over the counter stuff I just leave in the garage, if you live somewhere thats hot all year round I think keeping them inside the house and then taking them out when needed should be good
 
Never given it that much thought because I live in SoCA. I think avoiding extremes is a goog idea. Certainly wouldn't recommend freezing or melting temps.
 
A good wax can go below freezing and back no problem. Its when they get hot they start to separate and spoil. I really don't know what a more synthetic wax like Lava or something similar would do in freezing temps. I think they might be ruined.

Think of a candle. Put a candle in the freezer and back no issues. Melt the candle, well now thats a problem

I keep mine at the highest temp my wine cooler goes to, 59 degrees. 15C. Works well!

I would recommend though do not let polishes freeze. I had some of mine freeze in the past. It separates and the freezing ruins the abrasives
 
Just to inform you that an online store does not ship liquid waxes or others liquid products during cold temperature due to product sensitivity to cold temperatures.I don't know if AG has a special procedure for shipments heading cold regions.
 
Probably best to keep such like a fine wine, or a fine guitar, meaning don't keep such items anywhere you wouldn't want to be.

Like others have said, extreme temps at either end (freezing, or 100F+ garages-sheds) aren't going to be good.
 
I live in FL and our winter now is going to the 50s not much but it's a fluctuation of temps 85 during the days and 50 at night. I don't know if that's damaging them or not


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Lim3 said:
I live in FL and our winter now is going to the 50s not much but it's a fluctuation of temps 85 during the days and 50 at night. I don't know if that's damaging them or not


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I would honestly say you are perfectly ok. Seeing how a product is affected is all on sight. When my polishes froze, they separated, my leather conditioner became runny like water. I haven't had a wax melt on me, but I would error on the side of caution in the Florida summer. Anything higher than 100 you may start to have them melt (mind you I haven't had any experience). Think of how fast your finger can melt wax.

Wine coolers aren't too much (costco is cheap) and if you really want, I am sure there would be one on CL or Kijiji. My house had them in there already; being that wine doesn't interest me, They sat empty until I had a brain wave.
 
Andr3wilson said:
I would honestly say you are perfectly ok. Seeing how a product is affected is all on sight. When my polishes froze, they separated, my leather conditioner became runny like water. I haven't had a wax melt on me, but I would error on the side of caution in the Florida summer. Anything higher than 100 you may start to have them melt (mind you I haven't had any experience). Think of how fast your finger can melt wax.

Wine coolers aren't too much (costco is cheap) and if you really want, I am sure there would be one on CL or Kijiji. My house had them in there already; being that wine doesn't interest me, They sat empty until I had a brain wave.
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I suppose Andr3wilson you have cold temperatures where you live in Canada.Would you order something like liquid wax when the temperature is less 20oC.?
 
Johny B said:
I suppose Andr3wilson you have cold temperatures where you live in Canada.Would you order something like liquid wax when the temperature is less 20oC.?
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Very cold. Happy to answer this Q.

Now my buddy owns AO here in Edmonton. He explained to me shipping for inventory, and shipping for customers.

Shipping stuff out to clients is perfectly fine. Basically the package goes from his warm store, to the heated Canada Post sorting centre. Onto a heated plane/truck, to the heated sorting facility, on a 1 hour "heated" (protected from the elements) truck to the house. Rarely stuff freeze this way. I had a package of stuff come on a -15F day. All of the products were cold, but no where near freezing when I opened it. So yes I would order liquid wax, I have actually.

Inventory shipping on the other hand is rarely done during winter. Mostly because it is a large skid of products that are shipped. They can sit outside or under a covered outdoor area for 1-3 weeks. They will freeze as hard as a rock. Usually shipping isn't done so much for the product freezing (soaps and cleaners can freeze no problem), its the cases expanding, cracking and subsequently leaking. He has received some fedex packages were the products leaked and turned the box into soggy cardboard held together by tape. He said and I quote "Its like they were rolled end over end from Europe to Edmonton"
 
Personally, I don't feel there is any guarantee in how many times a product can freeze before it becomes trash. I've list liquid products including waxes due to multiple freezes because of forgetting to bring a product or two in from my garage during the winter..

I think liquids are more prone / suitable to freezing and damage due to their being a liquid. Most quality solid waxes should tolerate the cold but it's what's in their formulation that the cold affects.

I'll freely admit that due to carelessness I've lost several liquid products through the years and with that loss is the associated expense.

Beginning in April I move my products from their hibernation in the basement to the garage. There they will acclimate to what ever the temperature may be and even though the garage is not heated, the inside temp never gets below freezing.

My products see a range of temperatures from about 40F to 95F in the garage. I've never had any product fail at these temperatures but the waxes do become softer and easier to use. I've never detected and separation due to heat but the warmer temps do make the liquids easier to re-blend as many naturally separate.

Frozen on Arrival

One time I ordered a few products that arrived frozen solid. It seems FedEx readies their delivery trucks the night before for delivery the next day....according to the person I spoke with. He was very nice and the package would be picked up the following day and they would contact the seller...still, you can't always rely on someone else watching out for your best interests.

Canada and other cold climates I'm certain have different shipping protocols to ensure shipments arrive safely. Temps up there routinely dip to -20F to -40F during the winter months and this type of cold is an entirely different animal to deal with.

I look at it like this; If a "product" touches my finish it comes in for the winter...During the spring, summer, and fall, my products enjoy the warmer temps as much as I do....:props:
 
I keep abrasives and LSP's around room temperature in the winter. Like others have said freezing doesn't seem to effect cleaners and soaps. In fact some chemicals in my shed have not even reached their freezing point despite single digits recently. My rule of thumb is, if I spent more than $20 on it, it stays with me. I told my wife she needs to get rid of some shoes so I have room for my box of wax in the closet. :) lol
 
My garage is in the basement, and usually doesn't get below 50, but If it's really cold for a long period, I move stuff to the other part of the basement where it's warmer, just to be safe.
 
spiralout462 said:
I keep abrasives and LSP's around room temperature in the winter. Like others have said freezing doesn't seem to effect cleaners and soaps. In fact some chemicals in my shed have not even reached their freezing point despite single digits recently. My rule of thumb is, if I spent more than $20 on it, it stays with me. I told my wife she needs to get rid of some shoes so I have room for my box of wax in the closet. :) lol
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You brought up a great point!

Most of the products we have represents a significant amount of money. I hate to see something happen even to only a few of my products because that's just like throwing money in the woodstove.

Most here have seen my collection of products. It's ends up taking me about 1 hour to move everything into my basement in the fall...time well spent in my opinion...:props:
 
All my products get packaged up from my garage and taken into the basement for winter storage. Better to be safe than sorry. I have a spare frig in my garage that I store all my carnuabas in.

Next to the beer of course :)
 
This is awesome info for others to learn ! Thanks for everything guys.

I think I might get a mini fridge for my waxes for the summer time.
It gets pretty hot here and woulda want them over heating.




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Are my other products safe in the 50 degree night weather ?
Polishes and other things like trim guards etc ?


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