Best wax for the daily driver.

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Hello All,

I have been using Pinnacle Souveran paste wax on my dark blue Jetta which gives amazing results. However this wax is not as long lasting as I would like it to be. I was wondering if anybody found similar shine in a longer lasting product?
 
You sure you want a Wax on a daily driver?
IMHO: A Sealant would be the better choice.

Bob
 
CDot said:
YES.



More YES.



Sonax Polymer NetShield is my sealant recommendation-the stuff is amazing. Beads like nothing on the market and is very chemically resistant.
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:iagree: Sonax PNS is amazing and will last about 6 months.
 
If the daily driver is parked outside all of the time I would go with a light cleaner/wax instead of a non-cleaning wax.

The reason why is becuase a non-cleaning wax will tend to not clean and thus seal in embeddd dirt.

A light cleaner/wax is a great way to maintain the finish on a daily driver. It will clean, polish and protect in one step while keeping the clearcoat clear so you can see the color coat under it.


:)
 
This article really shows how paint gets dirty over time and this is a garage kept car... just think how dirty a non garage kept car that's also a daily driver gets over time.


Here's why you need to polish paint...


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Dirt in Paint or DIP - Stained Paint - Dirt Embedded Paint



Here's an example of what dirty paint looks like, note how where Marius has been machine polishing the green paint is now a lighter, brighter color of green while the un-touched paint has a darker, cloudier look to it.


Here's Marius showing Brandon how use the Porter Cable with Pinnacle Advanced Finishing Polish to "carefully" clean and polish the original paint after we first rubbed the paint down with #7

Marius_Training_Brandon.jpg



I used MS Paint to draw a line around the section to make it easy to see the before and after difference where Marius has buffed and where the original dirty paint remains. This is an example of DIP or Dirt in Paint also called,


  • Dirt Staining
  • Dirt Embedded Paint
  • Stained Paint


Here's the picture, not the difference in the color of green on either side of the black line...

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I agree with Collinite 845 too. I would also put a sealant on first. I really like the concept of layering protection:

Sealant (I use Powerlock)
Wait about a week and then put on Collinite 845
Then everytime you wash the car dry with Meguire Spray Wax (which is a sealant)
 
Mike.Phillips@Autogeek said:
If the daily driver is parked outside all of the time I would go with a light cleaner/wax instead of a non-cleaning wax.

The reason why is becuase a non-cleaning wax will tend to not clean and thus seal in embeddd dirt.

A light cleaner/wax is a great way to maintain the finish on a daily driver. It will clean, polish and protect in one step while keeping the clearcoat clear so you can see the color coat under it.


:)
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Never thought about that 2nd paragraph--very good point. Most of us are thinking about the paint protection or looks and forget about the cleanlieness of paint. The OP could always coat with a more durable wax after using the cleaner if they wanted.

Great set of posts Mike! I'm bookmarking this thread
 
CDot said:
Never thought about that 2nd paragraph--very good point. Most of us are thinking about the paint protection or looks and forget about the cleanlieness of paint. The OP could always coat with a more durable wax after using the cleaner if they wanted.

Great set of posts Mike! I'm bookmarking this thread
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Thanks.... here's one more...



1955 Chevy & 1947 Buick Slantback - Show Car Makeover! - Pictures & Videos



Mike Searle's 1955 Chevy Sedan Delivery

Right after Mike arrived we did a Test Spot on the driver's side fender. While most people would look at Mike's 1955 Chevy and think the paint looks GREAT in reality, the paint was completely stained with embedded dirt.

The thing is you can't see the dirt until you buff on a section to remove it. MORE IMPORTANT is it's really only easy to see embedded dirt on WHITE CARS.

But think about it... if the paint on Mike's hot rod has embedded dirt and you can see it... don't you think all colors of car paint gets dirty BUT YOU CAN'T SEE IT?

The answer is YES and that's why periodically, especially if your car is a DAILY DRIVER, besides claying the paint you want and NEED to use some type of paint cleaner to remove the embedded dirt. If you don't remove it, then when you wax you simply seal the dirt into the paint.

The more time that goes by and the more you just wax the paint, the cloudier and cloudier it will get as you continually seal in more and more dirt.

Make sense?

Now let's take a look. Here's Mike's car and in this picture it can be kind of hard to see where I buffed on the top of the front driver's side fender.


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It's still hard to see the before and after difference, but for reference, I've taken the same picture above and placed an arrow pointing to the tape-line where I buffed on the front edge of the fender and left the back side of the fender along.

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Now look... see what I mean by embedded dirt on and to some level, "in" the paint.

1955_Chevy_Sedan_Delivery_010.jpg



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When maintaining DD's, I find myself reaching for two product lines regularly, Collinite and Duragloss. As mentioned, obtaining a clean finish not only looks better, but lengthens the durability of any waxes or sealants. If little or no correction is desired, DG 501 is a superb cleaner, as well as a durable wax. I'll usually top it with one of the Collinite products, either 845 or 476. Lately, I've been favoring DG 105 or 111 as a sealant topper. The look is different than Colli, more of a hard shine than the soft glow, but I've come to like the ability of the DG products to shed dirt better. My DD's will endure a rainstorm or two with virtually no evidence.

Bill
 
What about Griots 1 step sealant? I picked some up and I'm going to try it after my hail damage gets fixed.
 
Quickstrike32 said:
What about Griots 1 step sealant? I picked some up and I'm going to try it after my hail damage gets fixed.
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I'm a big fan. It lasts 8 months or so and is slick. The durability is there. However, it is a sealant, not a wax.
The fine hand polish in it is just enough to bring up a better shine if it's been neglected 2 months.
 
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